While I'm fine with the cut put variants, I think the butterfly part
of the logo art shown does not represent an improvement over the
current usage of the literal photo (although admittedly we have
squelched it a bit).

I've always liked the photo because it communicates beauty, freedom
and authenticity.

While the new logo retains the shape, it loses the beauty of the
original butterfly in my opinion.

Adam K

On 13 February 2011 01:29, amit mojumder <mit....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello All
> here is the attached first approach for the logo and icon for the Padre
> User Interface which could be used at web, desktop icon, brand mark and
> fevicon. I designing it in vector format and gave it a glossy look
> to visualize as web 2.0 standard. You can give opinion and use any version
> included here. If you prefer to use very simple icon then black and white
> version would be idol i think.
> Hope you all will like it. i will be waiting for your kind feedbacks and
> opinions. soon i am going to show the home page sample after the logo
> approval.
> Regards
> Amit Mojumder
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>>   1. Re: Ensuring more eyes on the development process
>>      (Sebastian Willing)
>>   2. Re: proposal for adding new features (Zeno Gantner)
>>   3. Re: proposal for adding new features (Zeno Gantner)
>>   4. Re: Padre UI and Brand design (Zeno Gantner)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:57:14 +0100
>> From: Sebastian Willing <sebastian.will...@web.de>
>> Subject: Re: [Padre-dev] Ensuring more eyes on the development process
>> To: Padre development discussion list <padre-dev@perlide.org>
>> Message-ID: <4d55403a.4090...@web.de>
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> this is way too complicated, sorry. :-)
>>
>> We really need some trunk/tool/ scripts for creating and merging a
>> branch for a given ticket-#
>>
>> Approval and merging should be a link on the ticket page, if possible.
>> People should be able to approve a change with one click.
>>
>> Alternate idea: Create a ticket for everything, attach the diff and let
>> someone else commit it after review.
>> Translation updates and minor fixes like r13678 to r13680 should be
>> committed without review.
>>
>> Sebastian
>>
>> Am 11.02.2011 14:27, schrieb Gabor Szabo:
>> > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:08 PM, Gabor Szabo<szab...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>> >> Here is an example:
>> >>
>> >> I'd like to remove the "Perl/Automatic Bracket Completion"
>> >> menu option as it is also available as
>> >> "Tools/Preferences/Behaviour/Autocomplete brackets".
>> >> I just opened a ticket with this
>> >> http://padre.perlide.org/trac/ticket/1102
>> >>
>> >> I'll now see how easy/difficult this will b with out current
>> >> technology.
>> >
>> > svn cp http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Padre
>> > http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-t1102 -m'branch for #1102'
>> > svn switch http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-t1102 .
>> >
>> > make the changes
>> >
>> > svn ci -m'Remove  Perl/Automatic Bracket Completion    #1102'
>> >
>> > (maybe do some more changes, if it is cleaner that way)
>> >
>> > # going back to trunk:
>> > svn switch http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/Padre
>> >
>> > I updated the tricket in trac but I don't see a way to mark it
>> > "resolved, waiting for approval".
>> > Now someone need to check the changes and approve them
>> >
>> >
>> > Once that's done someone will need to merge:
>> > To merge to trunk one needs to be in trunk and run:
>> >
>> > # First find out the point of branching:
>> > svn log http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-t1102 --stop-on-copy
>> > # from the listing get the earlies revision number, where the branching
>> > happaned
>> > svn merge http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-t1102 -r13682:HEAD
>> > .
>> > svn ci -m'merge #1102'
>> > svn rm http://svn.perlide.org/padre/branches/Padre-t1102 -m 'merged'
>> >
>> >
>> > huh
>> >     Gabor
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>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:43:10 +0100
>> From: Zeno Gantner <zeno.gant...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Padre-dev] proposal for adding new features
>> To: Padre development discussion list <padre-dev@perlide.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>        <aanlktimz6hs38539q2n1x9nzyxcbwpzvbb+oharab...@mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Gabor Szabo <szab...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I agree that developing things first as a plugin would be a good idea.
>> > It might require some improved API for the plugins so they can
>> > do thing which the current API does not let them do yet.
>> > It will also require a clear description of the plugin API and
>> > making sure we don't break the API without proper notification and
>> > a period that allows the plugins to move to the new API.
>> >
>> > That might mean.
>> > 1) Add new API feature and mark old API as deprecated. Release Padre
>> > 2) Wait 2 weeks, then add command line warnings to the deprecated
>> > methods. Release Padre.
>> > 3) After another 2 weeks remove old API. Release Padre
>> >
>> > The periods can be longer if needed and there can be additional Padre
>> > releases in the between.
>> >
>> > This still does not solve the whole issue though as some of the changes
>> > we want to make are tweaks to existing features. I'll send a separate
>> > message with that.
>>
>> I agree that the solution is incomplete.
>> I only thought of things that are already easy to implement as plugins
>> now.
>> Other than that, if we add complicated rules about API changes etc.,
>> we may be better served with one or several experimental branches
>> (possibly using git) and that's it.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>  Z.
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:45:02 +0100
>> From: Zeno Gantner <zeno.gant...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Padre-dev] proposal for adding new features
>> To: Padre development discussion list <padre-dev@perlide.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>        <aanlktinrstaavfg7lhscswri0nctmpnl6fdw3o4-g...@mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hi Sewi and list,
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 2:47 PM, Sebastian Willing
>> <sebastian.will...@web.de> wrote:
>> > The frozen release branch may solve parts of the "stable release"
>> > request.
>>
>> agreed.
>>
>> > I don't see people installing Plugins. Things like "svn" and "tidy" and
>> > other mandatory issues are installed, but many others are very unknown
>> > to Padre users.
>> >
>> > Option #2 sounds best to me. The Padre::Plugin::Experimental(Features)
>> > should be a core plugin. It could be enabled by default when running
>> > trunk and disabled by default when running a released version.
>>
>> again agreed.
>>
>> > Tweaks could be catched by the manual tests and the frozen release
>> > branch.
>>
>> In particular: If we tweak a feature, we should a test for that
>> feature if it does not exist yet ;-).
>>
>> > We need less released bugs, but we shouldn't make development too
>> > complicated.
>>
>> 100% agreement.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>  Zeno
>>
>> --
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>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:47:36 +0100
>> From: Zeno Gantner <zeno.gant...@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Padre-dev] Padre UI and Brand design
>> To: Padre development discussion list <padre-dev@perlide.org>
>> Message-ID:
>>        <aanlktikkee8oedu3bjdwawj52z2ujtoryj1vs2lgk...@mail.gmail.com>
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>>
>> Hi Amit,
>>
>> thank you for requisting this kind of input. It would be great to have
>> some direction here.
>>
>> My answers below, inline.
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 1:12 PM, amit mojumder <mit....@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 01. At present Padre has no color appearing as brand color. so, which
>> > colors
>> > should i choice for the designing procedure. If you have any specific
>> > colors
>> > to be used you can suggest.
>>
>> I really like the Padre logo, so it would be nice to either have the
>> blue from the icon, the green from the about dialog, or some color
>> that really harmonizes with those colors.
>>
>> > 02. What designing style you are expecting, like web 2.0 or minimal or
>> > general etc.
>>
>> I am generally in favor of minimalism, but not at any cost. Make it as
>> simple as possible, but not simpler.
>>
>> > 03. Do you have any specific website, which you like most and would like
>> > to
>> > see Padre design would be something like that standard? here i can
>> > mention
>> > that, twitter has specific web 2.0 style, facebook has a specific style.
>> > so
>> > something like that, do you have any preference?
>>
>> Some examples of software pages I like:
>>  - http://perl6.org/ (okay, one can discuss about the colors, but I
>> guess it is intentional)
>>  - http://cream.sourceforge.net/ (quite minimalistic)
>>  - http://strawberryperl.com/ (nice logo)
>>  - http://monodevelop.com/ (more content, still usable, see the
>> download section!)
>>  - http://redcareditor.com/
>>  - http://fantom.org/
>>
>> > 04. In order to design a proper user experience, do you have any
>> > suggestions
>> > or opinions to be implemented specially?
>>
>> Do you mean for the website?
>>
>> It should enable potential users to
>> 1. learn what Padre is,
>> 2. motivate them to try Padre,
>> 3. make it as simple as possible to find the preferred way of
>> installation for their platform, and
>> 4. direct them to solutions in case they have problems.
>>
>> Experienced users should find
>> 1. information about updates and
>> 2. about advanced functionality, as well as
>> 3. ways to contribute to Padre's development.
>>
>> > 05. What elements you people are expecting to be appeared on the Padre
>> > home
>> > page?
>>
>> screenshots, download instructions, brief and appealing description,
>> plugin list, how to contribute
>>
>> > 06. Gabor told me that, he liked rounded box in case of buttons or
>> > sections,
>> > so something like that do you have anything u prefer most?
>>
>> --
>>
>> > 07. I am planning on to redesign the padre logo, so that it may appear
>> > as a
>> > web icons like twitter or facebook, so what do you think about it? I
>> > would
>> > like to keep the butterfly shape since, over the times its already used
>> > and
>> > achieved a?familiarity in the community.
>>
>> I like the small icon very much. It is beautiful.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>  Z.
>>
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