Oren,

You are on point once again. My best experience with Padre installation was
installing from msi file and doing a cpan upgrade ( although for beginners
this step should be automated by having a feature to install a current
version or a packaged installer of the current version).

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Charlie Gonzalez

On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Oren Maurer <meor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not one of the "heavy coders" of Padre, but I'm sure that many
> people here will be happy to see your last note.
> Thanks for "spreading the word" - this is wonderful.
>
> Regarding the packaging of Padre with Strawberry,
> Well... I think that this is necessary for MS-Windows, but not for Linux /
> BSD.
> This is the reason - I guess - for making the "MSI" package that
> installs Strawberry+Padre on  MS-Windows.
> IMHO -  the simplest way for Padre on MS-Windows is to install this
> package - and then upgrade Padre inside the Strawberry environment,
> using CPAN.
> This is what I do on the MS-Windows PC that I have at work.
>
> On my home laptop and PC I have Linux (currently Ubuntu and ArchLinux).
> Usually - Linux (and *BSD) already come with Perl.
> So no need for Strawberry Perl in a usual Linux / *BSD.
>
> And... in fact using Strawberry Perl on MS-Windows is very good for
> developers (I really love it) but it's not a "must".
> Padre can be installed on MS-Windows - also with ActiveState Perl.
>
> On my work PC I have two Padre installations - one on ActiveState Perl
> environment, and other one on Strawberry Perl environment. Both live
> together.
>
> But I use the one from Strawberry.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Charlie Gonzalez <itchar...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Oren,
> >
> > You are correct. I forgot to mention that I spoke about the fact that I
> had to do a memory upgrade from 1 gig to 2 gigs and that I had a few memory
> issues while installing Strawberry Perl and Padre on my netbook with 1 gig
> ram.  I used this example to argue the fact that Padre and Strawberry Perl
> needs to be packaged with the latest version of Padre to avoid time consumed
> on installing both.
> >
> > PC with greater processing power than a netbook are ideal candidates for
> installing Padre.
> >
> > I am considering to work on a User Manual for Padre but I need to spend
> some time looking at the docs that are available to formulate a list of
> questions before I begin.
> >
> > FYI my presentation has inspired many of my coworkers to install and
> consider working with Padre. Thanks again for building such a wonderful IDE
> for Perl.
> >
> > Charlie G
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 6:09 AM, Oren Maurer <meor...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Charlie
> >> The presentation looks very nice!
> >> Really!
> >> Just a small comment regarding the time that of installing Padre on
> MS-Windows:
> >> I guess that first of all it's a question of memory and CPU.
> >> AFAIK - the Asus EEE PCs are designed to be lightweight and small
> laptops - also in memory... mainly for running Web browser and Office.
> >> Compiling on it will surely take longer then on larger laptop.
> >> And - as far as I know - installing Padre directly from CPAN does
> require compilation (of Wx).
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Zeno Gantner <zeno.gant...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello Charlie,
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Charlie Gonzalez <
> itchar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> > I have conducted a presentation in  regards to my user experience of
> Padre.
> >>> > This presentation was done in the NY Perl Seminar Group yesterday
> and  below
> >>> > is a url to the slides. (CC'ed in this email is Jim Keenan the
> moderator of
> >>> > NY Perl Seminar Group).
> >>> >
> >>> > http://www.slideshare.net/CharlieGonzalez2/padre-user-experience
> >>> >
> >>> > This presentation was mainly focused on the user perspective of the
> Padre
> >>> > application. A demo of Padre was also done at the end of the
> presentation.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you very much for presenting Padre, and also for sharing the
> >>> slides with us.
> >>>
> >>> > I want to inquire about any present efforts on producing  a training
> book on
> >>> > how to use Padre. Is there an effort to do this and if so how can one
> >>> > contribute?
> >>>
> >>> Currently, all Padre documentation is in the form of POD in the Padre
> >>> source files, plus some content on the wiki and in blog posts.
> >>> Very recently, there has been some effort to document Padre's features
> >>> in detail in the wiki: http://padre.perlide.org/trac/wiki/Features
> >>>
> >>> So no, there is currently no user manual in the form of a book.
> >>> If you want, you can start one - the feature list would of course be a
> >>> good starting point.
> >>> I would be willing to contribute, but I am hesitant to lead the thing
> >>> because my free time for Padre is currently quite limited.
> >>>
> >>> If you have questions, don't hesitate to ask them here in the list or
> on IRC.
> >>>
> >>> As said, sharing your experience is very valuable to us.
> >>> For instance, I did not know that installing a current Padre takes 1.5
> >>> hours on Windows!
> >>> This is actually quite sad, we should definitely do something about
> this.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>  Zeno
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