Warning: You might not like what and how I write here and I'll probably
regret posting it publicly, but what the heck. Let's see what happens.


> 2013/1/29 Claudio Ramirez <padre.clau...@apt-get.be>
>> Guys, let's stay friends here. This is free software here.


On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ahmad Zawawi <ahmad.zaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Agreed, We are here for fun and to learn new things by experimenting here &
> there.
> Gabor, thanks for creating Padre and Padre's community.
> Kevin, thanks for keeping Padre community together and following-up on most 
> of the issues.

I think I am wasting too much time and energy thinking about a response
or a course of action. It is not fun for me to be pestered. It is not fun for
me to waste so much time.

I know Kevin contributed quite a lot to Padre, but it has a toll. At
least on me.
So far I was mostly silent about it. This time I felt I need to say
something about it.
So you know.

On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ahmad Zawawi <ahmad.zaw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Gabor, what "other things" stopped you from contributing to your own project. 
> Could you elaborate on that point? I was under the impression that your 
> current workload stopped you from contributing.

Hmm, if bowtie already diverted the original subject then I guess we
can go further.
I did not want to blame anyone besides me as I think the major reason
is lack of time/change in interest,
but there were a couple of other things.

For example I felt a loss of control in the project.
I felt the original method of anarchic development and "let's give
commit bit to everyone"
stopped working after a while and we should have established a much
stricter policy of
commit bits. Probably even for the development. (e.g. code review).
AFAIK Adam was against this.

Then Adam, while doing a great job in improving the internals of
Padre, constantly broke it
(at least I saw things broken) and in many cases I had to run and fix
it. I did not find it fun,
but I did not want to fight so I stepped back.

Finally, I have stopped using Padre as it was broken on my Linux,
which my main development platform.
(Specifically the copy-paste feature is broken. [1])

(I am not sure I listed everything, but I am sure I'll regret talking
about this in public.)

And just to bring it to what happened now:
I couple of days ago I thought I can find new interest in Padre if I
can start writing plugins
for the other languages I have been dealing with recently (Python,
HTML5/CSS/Javascript, Tcl).
Having releases is the foundation of all progress.
So I started on this. Within a few days I got these distractions from
Kevin about Trac and Hypolit,
First a single message to the mailing list, then an unrelated reply to
this mail.
We have discussed Trac and Hypolit several times already. I told Kevin
I'll fix them when I can find the time.
(and I am sure I'd find time more easily if the whole project seemed
more interesting to me)
These problems with Trac and the lack of Hypolit are NOT what have
slowed down the development of Padre
and are NOT what stopping it now.


Enjoy yourself!
Gabor

[1] I just checked it and it is still totally broken on my Linux machine:
If I highlight and copy or cut a text I can paste it later, but, if I
search for something, then I cannot paste any more.
Ctr-P just does not do anything.
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