I don't mind so much if users crack software for their own personal use, but
distributing it freely does urk me.  How far off are we from a site as
popular as this charging $5 a month for membership?  Then they are making
money on my software.

Cassidy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aaron Ardiri [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 1999 10:56 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: cracking site - how do we shut it down?
> 
> On Tue, 8 Jun 1999, Ryan Minnig wrote:
> > You will never be able to stop people from cracking your software.
> Heck, 
> > there have even been times when I had to resort to doing my own cracking
> 
> > to use a 'time limited' or some sort of 'shareware internet
> registration' 
> > to be able to use the full version.  The long and short of it is as long
> 
> > as there is software people want to use and it's more cost effective to 
> > spend hours downloading (or, heaven forbid, cracking yourself) people 
> > will find a way to crack it.  If you don't want it cracked (very fast 
> > that is) you will have to devote considerable resources to finding a way
> 
> > to make it uncrackable as long as possible (i.e. long enough for you to 
> > make a profit off of it).  Remember there are high school and college 
> > students that have many free hours to spend doing this sort of thing,
> and 
> > also working people, but just with not as much free time.
> > 
> > In my opinion,
> > Q. Is downloading full versions of cracked software wrong?
> > A. Probably.
> 
>   agreed.. how many of you have cracked desktop software? 
> 
> > Q. Is downloading full (trial) versions of software from the internet or
> 
> > CD provided by the author/company then cracking it yourself wrong?
> > A. No.  If a person/company is too lazy or stupid to think through their
> 
> > copy protection ahead of time they are just looking for trouble.  And 
> > yes, it would be foolish to use the same scheme on multiple peices of 
> > software to better code reuse (like M$ Office, OS, Bookshelf, Developer 
> > studio.......)
> 
>   thats what i have always thought too.
> 
>   a) if they are smart enough to crack it.. good on em.
>   b) them distributing it is wrong.
> 
> > For all you software engineers out there like me.  At least perform a 
> > checksum on your code before you allow the OS (Palm or otherwise) to 
> > execute it to stop the inexperienced hacker from NOPing or changing BEQs
> 
> > to BNEs.  (and yes, I know it is a little difficult to do this when not 
> > in an embedded system, using someone elses OS, but if you don't, be 
> > prepared for many crackers of all ages to use you software in a matter
> of 
> > minutes, hours or days)
> 
>   but they can jump over that too. :P
> 
> az. 
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