Good Points, I will slide my soapbox into my closet for now. Cheers, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Reimer Mellin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:26 AM Subject: RE: Java VM For Pilot >guys, > >i do not think this forum is the proper place to fight out religious >battles over editors/languages/whatever. > >Each language has its own merits. Can we leave it to that? > >In the meantime: PocketST is freely available and the KVM is not. > >Personally I would strongly hope that the Sun guys are taking a careful >look at the PalmOS integration of PacketST, instead of coming up with a >bothed up version of e.g. AWT for PalmOS. > >Cheers > Reimer > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Steven Todd Harris [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 1999 9:01 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: Java VM For Pilot > > > >>Java has gone past the 'brand new' stage. It is one of the two real OO >>programming languages on the market (the second being Smalltalk, not C++). >It >>has the best, and I really mean the best, API I've ever seen - head and >>shoulders above competition. The API is so good I now write big chunks of >code >>without need for the API documentation - it has good design guidelines and >>sticks to them. > >Good style guidelines? Are you kidding.Java programmers still use one >letter >variable names. > > >>If you are missing good development environments, where you can run code >>snippets, I can give much more than that. Try IBM VisualAge for Java. You >can >>write code snippets, execute them and, with it's dynamic compilation >techniques, >>you can change running code on-the-fly and see the results without ever >stopping >>the program. You can easily write new GUI components, using the JavaBean >>specification, and include them in the GUI builder. > >Yes VisualAge for Java is good ( and written in Smalltalk ). > > > >> >>?!? Complex syntax and annoyng typing? I don't imagine an OO syntax much >simpler > >really, smalltalk has 5 key words. Did you ever count Java's? >Did you ever write things in Smalltalk and then write them in Java and >compare the >fact that it takes as many as ten times the number of lines of source to do >it? > >What is the class of class in Java? > >Why are there two integers? > >how many lines does it take to do a perform? > >in smalltak it is > >anInstance perform: #aMethod. > >If you want to write a method that extends a "Primitive Type" where do you >do it? > >Cheers, >Steve > > > > >
