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> -> Re: Palm OS 6 Beta???
> by "Chris Antos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Bug in FldSetSelection ?
> by "Bozidar Benc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> RE: EvtSetNullEventTick macro
> by "Fawcett, Mitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Tables ....
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> Re: Tables ....
> by "Ramel Levin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: Problem PalmVII socket programming
> by earl johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Opening files in CodeWarrior Constructor
> by "Greg Bungo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Detecting VII
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> Re: Problem PalmVII socket programming
> by Laurence Lundblade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: Problem PalmVII socket programming
> by David Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: Detecting VII
> by David Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: Opening files in CodeWarrior Constructor
> by "Dave Lippincott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> RE: PalmOS improvements (was: C++ SDK wanted!)
> by Richard Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> CW and Win2000
> by Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: CW and Win2000
> by "Jun-Kiat Lam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Displaying text: Label or Non-editable field?
> by "Matt West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> lowBatteryChr, help!
> by "Eugen Polukhin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Alert Box
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> well known PQA names
> by Kitty Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Low Lever Debugger
> by "Ariel Barreiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> popupTriggerTableItem
> by "Yeung, Albert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> How can I change the app name
> by "Mike Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: CW and Win2000
> by Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> RE: EvtSetNullEventTick macro
> by Danny Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> App Emulation vs. Execution
> by "Miller, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: CW and Win2000
> by "Paul Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: App Emulation vs. Execution
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> Re: How can I change the app name
> by "Paul Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: How can I change the app name
> by Danny Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: How can I change the app name
> by Ben Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Can the application installaed in the palm in someway?
> by "Loh Kok Jien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: Can the application installaed in the palm in someway?
> by "Jens Rupp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> prevent beaming
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> Re: Can the application installaed in the palm in someway?
> by "SnerdiWQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: prevent beaming
> by Alpal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Network Settings
> by "udtha pradeep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: CW and Win2000
> by "Chris Antos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: prevent beaming
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> Re: Tables ....
> by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -> Question about Network Hotsync, Multithreading etc
> by "Maha Sharabinth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> -> Re: prevent beaming
> by Danny Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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>
> Date: 27 Sep 1999 23:23:34 -0700
> From: "Chris Antos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Palm OS 6 Beta???
>
> he said "CodeWarrior PalmOS 6 Beta", so that would be the beta of
> CodeWarrior Release 6 for PalmOS. i would think any beta testers would have
> signed NDA forms agreeing to not disclose anything, though.
>
> questions and issues about a beta should be directed to Metrowerks, not this
> forum.
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stuart Uleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 10:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Palm OS 6 Beta???
>
> > Actually, I think he's referring to OS3.3 beta 6, rather than a beta of
> > Palm OS6.
> >
> > Sign up for the development seeding program, and it's yours!
> >
> > BTW, is OS3.3 going to be coming out soon?
> > Maybe a release with the upcoming Vx? (or whatever it's going to be
> > called)
> >
> > And can someone from Palm provide details of how the Vx is (rumored to
> > be) twice as fast as the V?
> >
> > On Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:19:38 -0400
> > "Paul Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Where do you get that???
> >
> > =================================================
> > | Stuart Uleman
> > | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > =================================================
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 02:01:39 -0700
> From: "Bozidar Benc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Bug in FldSetSelection ?
>
> I have a read only field on my form which I accidentally made right aligned.
> Now, when I call FldSetSelection, it behaves like the field is left aligned,
> it highlights the wrong part of the field.
>
> I looked at the source code for the FldSetSelection and it really doesn't
> check the field alignment.
>
> The same problem occurs with the OS 3.1, 3.2 and 3.3 (I didn't test it with
> the OS 2.x).
>
> Regards
>
> Bozidar
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 05:22:52 -0700
> From: "Fawcett, Mitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: EvtSetNullEventTick macro
>
> Why isn't something simple like the following:
>
> // display some text...
> SysTaskDelay (SysTicksPerSecond ()/2);
> // erase the text...
>
> sufficient to hold up processing for a brief period (in this case 1/2
> second) in order to display some text and then erase it?
>
> Mitch
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Danny Epstein [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 9:30 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: EvtSetNullEventTick macro
> >
> > At 8:27 PM -0700 9/18/99, Sudipta Ghose wrote:
> >
> > In the datebook source code, I found a macro named
> > EvtSetNullEventTick. The macro sets an OS global called NeedNullTickCount.
> > If I use this macro in my code pose gives a warning (as it should). My
> > question is how safe is to use the macro? How does this global affects the
> > generation of nilEvents? Is there any alternatives? What I need to do, is
> > to display some text for few seconds, and then erase the text.
> >
> >
> > Scott Johnson answered your question a long time ago, but he didn't give
> > any details on how do what EvtSetNullEventTick does yourself. I used
> > EvtSetNullEventTick during development of BeamBooks, but I switched to my
> > own ProduceNilEventAt routine before release.
> >
> > You need a global variable, say:
> >
> > // When to produce a nil event, or zero if never.
> > static ULong NilEventTicks = 0;
> >
> > Then you need a routine like this:
> >
> > void ProduceNilEventAt(ULong ticks)
> > {
> > if (NilEventTicks == 0 || NilEventTicks > ticks)
> > NilEventTicks = ticks;
> > }
> >
> > Then you need to modify your app event loop like this:
> >
> > static void AppEventLoop(void)
> > {
> > ULong now;
> > SDWord timeout;
> > ...
> >
> > do
> > {
> > if (NilEventTicks == 0)
> > timeout = evtWaitForever;
> > else
> > {
> > now = TimGetTicks();
> > timeout = NilEventTicks > now ? NilEventTicks - now :
> > 0;
> > }
> > EvtGetEvent(&event, timeout);
> > if (event.eType == nilEvent)
> > NilEventTicks = 0;
> > if (! SysHandleEvent(&event))
> > ...
> > }
> > while (event.eType != appStopEvent);
> > }
> >
> > When I get a nilEvent, I don't assume that my wait is over. The nilEvent
> > could have been generated by Palm OS. I use a separate tick clock to
> > check. Here's an example of how you could use ProduceNilEventAt to hide
> > some text after a few seconds:
> >
> > #define kHideTextDelay 300ul
> >
> >
> > static ULong HideTextTicks;
> >
> > static void LoadSomeForm(FormPtr formP)
> > {
> > HideTextTicks = TimGetTicks() + kHideTextDelay;
> > ProduceNilEventAt(HideTextTicks);
> > }
> >
> >
> > Boolean SomeFormHandleEvent(EventPtr eventP)
> > {
> > ...
> > if (HideTextTicks != 0 && TimGetTicks() > HideTextTicks)
> > ... hide text here ...
> > switch (eventP->eType)
> > {
> > ...
> > case nilEvent:
> > if (HideTextTicks != 0)
> > ProduceNilEventAt(HideTextTicks);
> > break;
> > }
> > return handled;
> > }
> >
> > Hope this isn't too late to be useful...
> > -
> > Danny Epstein, Applied Thought Corporation
> > Check out our latest app at http://www.appliedthought.com/beambooks
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 05:41:46 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Tables ....
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm in the urgent need to understand tables in order to display a list of
> records. Is there a crash course on the net avail that guides me through the
> usage of tables ?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ole
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 06:10:39 -0700
> From: "Ramel Levin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Tables ....
>
> http://www.palm.com/devzone/docs/pptdg/ch08.htm
>
> Regards,
> Ramel Levin
> CTO
> The PalmMate Team
>
> Gotta a Palm? Gotta visit www.PalmMate.com
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:36 PM
> Subject: Tables ....
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm in the urgent need to understand tables in order to display a list of
> > records. Is there a crash course on the net avail that guides me through
> the
> > usage of tables ?
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Ole
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 07:10:37 -0700
> From: earl johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Problem PalmVII socket programming
>
> (Sorry if this is a repeat I did not see it posted.)
>
> The issues you talk about battery, delay, ... are optimization issues.
> What I
> have is code that will run on any box with an internet connection
> (PalmIII, PalmV,
> Windows, UNIX, VMC, Mac, Windows CE, Tandy 1000SX, ....), but will not
> run on a
> PalmVII. Why don't I get an error when loading in the NetLibrary if it
> is not
> supported? If the web clipping architecure is using UDP could I use
> UDP? Are you saying that
> it is wrong or impossible to to TCP on PalmVII?
>
> Earl Johnson
>
> David Fedor wrote:
>
> > >I have a TCP/IP program that works on PalmIII and PalmV via their
> modems, but
> > >when I try it on the PalmVII wireless modem the socket will not
> connect.
> >
> > The wireless radio in a Palm VII can't be used as a generic tcp/ip
> > connection - there are severe battery life and latency concerns that
> make
> > it unreasonable to do so. And even if you had money and time to burn,
> the
> > infrastructure isn't set up that way.
> >
> > As an example: I believe I remember that making a socket connection
> over
> > tcp/ip requires 5 or 6 back-and-forth packets between the client and
> > server. Latency is high in wireless nets like the one that the Palm
> VII
> > device uses right now, and so just making a connection would take, oh,
> 30
> > or 45 seconds? Bad user experience. And with that chatty protocol,
> the
> > users bill will be much higher too. The web clipping architecture
> does
> > lots of tricks (including using UDP instead of TCP/IP) to make it
> fast,
> > cheap, and power-conserving.
> >
> > You might want to do a bit more research into the tradeoffs and
> options
> > before just writing the code :-)
> >
> > FWIW, there are other radios which do function as more of a
> conventional
> > tcp/ip stack and connection. This just isn't the right tool for that
> job;
> > it is designed for something different.
> >
> > -David Fedor
> > Palm Developer Support
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 09:03:52 -0700
> From: "Greg Bungo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Opening files in CodeWarrior Constructor
>
> Hello,
>
> Opening files in Constructor 1.1.3 for Windows 98 is inconvenient.
> File>Open_Project_File always starts in My_Documents,
> even if I am using Constructor for the second (or later)
> time. Is there a way to start in the directory where my
> project files exist?
>
> I have tried setting the properties for a Desktop Shortcut to
> Constructor so that the start directory for the program
> is my project directory, but that doesn't change where
> Constructor searches for files to open.
>
> One method that seems to work, but is still somewhat awkward,
> is to double click on the icon of the *.RSRC file. This will
> start Constructor with the correct file open, but I still need to
> navigate through Explorer to get to the RSRC file.
>
> The IDE has two features that would be useful in Constructor:
> File>Open_Recent
> File>Find_and_Open
> Is there a way to activate these features in Constructor? If not,
> when will they be added to the program?
>
> Greg Bungo
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (630)949-3250 voice
> (630)949-3299 fax
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 09:44:18 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Detecting VII
>
> Hi List,
>
> how can I programmatically detect if it's a Palm V or Palm VII?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Bastian.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 10:27:41 -0700
> From: Laurence Lundblade <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Problem PalmVII socket programming
>
> I think there several ways to look at this. The Palm VII works well for
> quick access to more or less tailored content from a small handy low
> maintenance device. It is good. Let's call it the Miata or the Z3 :-)
>
> Lets call the Qualcomm pdQ a SUV. It's not so nimble, but it can transfer
> lots of data. With it you can open a TCP connection just like Earl wants.
> You get about 14kbps of through put and it will cost you less than $.50 to
> transfer 50Kbytes of data and you can transfer that amount in about a
> minute. I think one of the reasons for cost is lower is because the cost of
> building out the infrastructure (billions of dollars) is already sunk and
> paid for by the cellular voice networks (pdQ uses the same antennas/towers,
> base stations, backhauls etc. as the voice infrastructure).
>
> The downside is its larger size and the need to recharge the unit. That is,
> a lot of the things Dave is talking about are right on in terms of the
> design decisions made for the Palm VII.
>
> On a pdQ what it takes to open a connection to the server is something like
> this:
>
> 1) Bring up a data call -- This is usually a couple of seconds
> 2) PPP negotiation to authenticate and establish the IP address -- This
> takes several round trips and depends on the PPP configuration of your
> service provider (e.g., Sprint PCS vs AirTouch). This is typically 2 or 3
> seconds
> 3) Do a DNS look up -- This is one UDP pack out and one packet back.
> I've seen it take anywhere from 1 to 10 seconds
> 4) TCP connection establishment. I believe this is about 1.5 round trips
> and I've seen it take from 1 to 5 seconds
>
> So if you add up all the round trips you do get about 5 and it takes 6 to
> 20 seconds. If you've done steps 1and 2 (i.e., a data call is up) then it's
> less than 3 round trips and very fast. In an informal test I find it's less
> than 3 seconds to establish a TCP connection once the PPP session is up.
>
> LL
>
> At 11:23 AM 9/28/99 -0400, earl johnson wrote:
> >(Sorry if this is a repeat I did not see it posted.)
> >
> >The issues you talk about battery, delay, ... are optimization issues.
> >What I
> >have is code that will run on any box with an internet connection
> >(PalmIII, PalmV,
> >Windows, UNIX, VMC, Mac, Windows CE, Tandy 1000SX, ....), but will not
> >run on a
> >PalmVII. Why don't I get an error when loading in the NetLibrary if it
> >is not
> >supported? If the web clipping architecure is using UDP could I use
> >UDP? Are you saying that
> >it is wrong or impossible to to TCP on PalmVII?
> >
> >Earl Johnson
> >
> >David Fedor wrote:
> >
> > > >I have a TCP/IP program that works on PalmIII and PalmV via their
> >modems, but
> > > >when I try it on the PalmVII wireless modem the socket will not
> >connect.
> > >
> > > The wireless radio in a Palm VII can't be used as a generic tcp/ip
> > > connection - there are severe battery life and latency concerns that
> >make
> > > it unreasonable to do so. And even if you had money and time to burn,
> >the
> > > infrastructure isn't set up that way.
> > >
> > > As an example: I believe I remember that making a socket connection
> >over
> > > tcp/ip requires 5 or 6 back-and-forth packets between the client and
> > > server. Latency is high in wireless nets like the one that the Palm
> >VII
> > > device uses right now, and so just making a connection would take, oh,
> >30
> > > or 45 seconds? Bad user experience. And with that chatty protocol,
> >the
> > > users bill will be much higher too. The web clipping architecture
> >does
> > > lots of tricks (including using UDP instead of TCP/IP) to make it
> >fast,
> > > cheap, and power-conserving.
> > >
> > > You might want to do a bit more research into the tradeoffs and
> >options
> > > before just writing the code :-)
> > >
> > > FWIW, there are other radios which do function as more of a
> >conventional
> > > tcp/ip stack and connection. This just isn't the right tool for that
> >job;
> > > it is designed for something different.
> > >
> > > -David Fedor
> > > Palm Developer Support
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 11:03:05 -0700
> From: David Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Problem PalmVII socket programming
>
> Thanks for the great answer and information, Laurence. The pdQ is really
> well suited to this task.
>
> To answer some of the other questions:
>
> >What I have is code that will run on any box with an
> >internet connection... but will not run on a PalmVII.
> >Why don't I get an error when loading in the NetLibrary if it
> >is not supported?
>
> The net library is absolutely supported on a Palm VII device... just not
> for use with the built-in wireless radio. You can use netlib like you want
> on a Palm VII device, if you plug a normal modem on just like you'd do with
> a Palm III device. So in that sense your code does work fine on this box,
> with the same experience and functionality as a Palm III user would have.
>
> > If the web clipping architecure is using UDP could I use
> >UDP? Are you saying that
> >it is wrong or impossible to to TCP on PalmVII?
>
> The lower-level interfaces to the radio aren't documented, supported,
> recommended, or even a good idea. And even if you skip the
> battery/time/etc. issues covered before, you'd still find that you're going
> through the palm.net proxy which only does HTTP transactions, so you
> wouldn't have gotten any real benefit.
>
> Please understand that we're not trying to hold you back... the radio in a
> Palm VII device just isn't what you might think; it is a screwdriver and
> you're looking for a hammer.
>
> - -David Fedor
> Palm Developer Support
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 11:03:22 -0700
> From: David Fedor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Detecting VII
>
> >how can I programmatically detect if it's a Palm V or Palm VII?
>
> What do you really want to know? Whether it has a wireless radio? PQA
> support? Rechargeable battery? Thin or thick? EZ or traditional Dragonball
> processor? Etc...
>
> Those are nearly always the questions you really want to know the answers
> to, so that you don't limit your app to only working properly on the
> devices you currently know about. And the answers to those are usually in
> the docs (well, not the thin-or-thick one...)
>
> - -David Fedor
> Palm Developer Support
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 11:06:44 -0700
> From: "Dave Lippincott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Opening files in CodeWarrior Constructor
>
> Double click the rsrc file listed under the AppResources listing (in your
> project window). Its allot easier than trying to open the constructor from
> the file group or from the explorer.
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Greg Bungo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 12:03 PM
> Subject: Opening files in CodeWarrior Constructor
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >Opening files in Constructor 1.1.3 for Windows 98 is inconvenient.
> >File>Open_Project_File always starts in My_Documents,
> >even if I am using Constructor for the second (or later)
> >time. Is there a way to start in the directory where my
> >project files exist?
> >
> >I have tried setting the properties for a Desktop Shortcut to
> >Constructor so that the start directory for the program
> >is my project directory, but that doesn't change where
> >Constructor searches for files to open.
> >
> >One method that seems to work, but is still somewhat awkward,
> >is to double click on the icon of the *.RSRC file. This will
> >start Constructor with the correct file open, but I still need to
> >navigate through Explorer to get to the RSRC file.
> >
> >The IDE has two features that would be useful in Constructor:
> > File>Open_Recent
> > File>Find_and_Open
> >Is there a way to activate these features in Constructor? If not,
> >when will they be added to the program?
> >
> >Greg Bungo
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >(630)949-3250 voice
> >(630)949-3299 fax
> >
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 11:32:06 -0700
> From: Richard Hartman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: PalmOS improvements (was: C++ SDK wanted!)
>
> David -- Yes, there are some situations where a
> fatal error is appropriate. However, those situations
> are generally AFTER the app has been given a chance
> to handle the error (should it be so inclined).
>
> System-generated fatal error dialogs should be a
> - -last- line of defense, not the first.
>
> I realize that the only way to make this happen
> is through the use of exception handling (and
> giving the OS the last bite at the apple), and that
> not all development envirionments support exceptions,
> however it is the place to be aiming for.
>
> - --
> - -Richard M. Hartman
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> 186,000 mi./sec ... not just a good idea, it's the LAW!
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 11:35:19 -0700
> From: Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: CW and Win2000
>
> Anybody using CW5 with the beta's of Win2000 ?? (Actually I think it's now
> RC2...) Any problems / hiccups ??
>
> TNX Niel
> - ------- -.. . .-- .- --... ... ... .- -------------
> Niel Skousen: Sr.Eng, SCIENTECH.SPG/CFG, NUSI WA7SSA
> 208.525.3742, 524.9229 FAX 529.4721 Idaho Falls ID
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] DN33wm . . . -z
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 11:51:29 -0700
> From: "Jun-Kiat Lam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: CW and Win2000
>
> Hi Niel,
>
> To the best of my knowledge CW for Palm works with Win 2000. Are you running
> into any specific problems? Can you clarify?
>
> Jun-Kiat Lam
> Metrowerks Technical Support
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 1:27 PM
> Subject: CW and Win2000
>
> > Anybody using CW5 with the beta's of Win2000 ?? (Actually I think it's
> now
> > RC2...) Any problems / hiccups ??
> >
> > TNX Niel
> > ------- -.. . .-- .- --... ... ... .- -------------
> > Niel Skousen: Sr.Eng, SCIENTECH.SPG/CFG, NUSI WA7SSA
> > 208.525.3742, 524.9229 FAX 529.4721 Idaho Falls ID
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] DN33wm . . . -z
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 12:04:24 -0700
> From: "Matt West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Displaying text: Label or Non-editable field?
>
> Hi. I usually just lurk here, listening to everyone. But here goes...
>
> I'd like to display some text programmatically. In the Rhodes and McKeehan
> book, they suggest it may be better to use a non-editable field rather than
> a label. Does anyone have an opinion on this?
>
> Most of the source code I've seen deals with Editable fields. Could someone
> please point me in the direction of a good source code example. It just
> seems that all that locking/unlocking of text handles is lots of work,
> whereas using labels and the FrmCopyLabel routine looks a bit more graceful.
> Or is it?. Of course I'll use fields if I have to :)
>
> Thanks.
> Matt West.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 12:12:33 -0700
> From: "Eugen Polukhin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: lowBatteryChr, help!
>
> My app has to do some screen ajustments
> to let system popups pass thru.
> So i look for keyDown events with chrCode like alarmChr
> to switch into safe mode and let system draw what it wants.
> OK, that workes fine, the user after looking at alarms and likes
> has an opportunity to press button and resume
> Then I notice, that "batterry low" warning stuck.
> Never mind, I add lowBatteryChr into consideration, and again,
> my app switches into safe mode,
> my start form and system warning above it both appeares,
> and after pondering where i can get batteries at 3 a.m.
> i can return to work. That's all right - my batteries are drained.
> I have replaced them, do my app testing, and in regular periods -
> my start form and no any warnings!!!
> What a loss.
> Why system sends lowBatteryChr when it really has not to?
> Batteries are OK, no warning will follow.
> What can I do with that? Help, please.
>
> Thanks, Eugen P.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 12:14:30 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Alert Box
>
> Hi list,
>
> is there a way to exit a modal alert box (FrmAlert) from within a
> program without a user input? (lets say, there is no user response and
> the device goes to sleep and on wake up, the alert box should be
> gone).
>
> Thanksssss.....
>
> Bastian
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 12:22:51 -0700
> From: Kitty Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: well known PQA names
>
> How do we find out about the names of well known PQAs such as Weather,
> Travelocity, abc.news so that we can link to them from our own PQA?
> Thanks
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 12:24:23 -0700
> From: "Ariel Barreiro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Low Lever Debugger
>
> My palm has crashed and I tried to soft reset it in the debug mode (couse
> normal softreset didn't work) and connect to it to get some data. When I
> search for some info I realised that the mode of that type of softreset is
> the same as shortcut .. 1. Am I right? I read at the o'really book and it
> says there that i have to use a low lever debugger. Now, of course, I have
> already hard-reset it and it wasn't big deo with the data I have lost.
> Anyway, I would like to be prepear for that. Does anybody know of this
> debugger and where I can get it and if it is possible to retrieve the
> database when your palm crash at startup after reseting.
>
> Thanks a lot
>
> Ariel.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 13:15:21 -0700
> From: "Yeung, Albert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: popupTriggerTableItem
>
> I have a table, in which I have set one of the elements to be of the style
> "popupTriggerTableItem" via the "TblSetItemStyle" function. The popup
> trigger appears in the table, I can select the items from the list assigned
> to the trigger. The question is with the placement of the trigger. The
> trigger is right justified within the column and I can't seem to set the
> justification to be left justified.
>
> When looking at the code in the debugger, I noticed that when the trigger is
> selected, the tables "currentRow" and "currentColumn" fields do not reflect
> the proper table element, so setting the "currentField.justification"
> attribute does not work.
>
> How do I left justify this trigger???
>
> Thanks in Advance,
>
> Albert Yeung
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 13:42:12 -0700
> From: "Mike Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: How can I change the app name
>
> Can you programmatically change the application
> name that is displayed below the icon on the palm?
>
> Is there an api that I could call? or is this a
> "hack" into the resource kind of thing?
>
> If anyone has done something like this, i'd appreciate
> a pointer in the right direction.
>
> Thanks
>
> Mike
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 14:24:22 -0700
> From: Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: CW and Win2000
>
> Not running Win2K yet, but thought I'd ping the list before I loaded it...
> Tnx for the reply
>
> Niel
>
> At 01:41 PM 9/28/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi Niel,
> >
> >To the best of my knowledge CW for Palm works with Win 2000. Are you running
> >into any specific problems? Can you clarify?
> >
> >Jun-Kiat Lam
> >Metrowerks Technical Support
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 1:27 PM
> >Subject: CW and Win2000
> >
> >
> > > Anybody using CW5 with the beta's of Win2000 ?? (Actually I think it's
> >now
> > > RC2...) Any problems / hiccups ??
> > >
> > > TNX Niel
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 14:28:22 -0700
> From: Danny Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: EvtSetNullEventTick macro
>
> At 8:16 AM -0400 9/28/99, Fawcett, Mitch wrote:
> >Why isn't something simple like the following:
> >
> >// display some text...
> >SysTaskDelay (SysTicksPerSecond ()/2);
> >// erase the text...
> >
> >sufficient to hold up processing for a brief period (in this case 1/2
> >second) in order to display some text and then erase it?
>
> This is sufficient for a 1/2 second delay since it's (arguably) ok to lock up
> the machine for that long. For a delay of several seconds, it becomes more of
> a problem. You really should let the user interact with the UI during the
> delay. Look at the way the built-in Date Book app puts up the time when you
> tap on the title (which normally shows the date). During the period when the
> time is displayed, you can use the app normally.
>
> Your use of SysTicksPerSecond() is good.
> - -
> Danny Epstein, Applied Thought Corporation
> Check out our latest app at http://www.appliedthought.com/beambooks
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 14:58:19 -0700
> From: "Miller, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: App Emulation vs. Execution
>
> How can my app tell if it's running on the emulator? I want to handle things
> differently depending upon whether my app is running on the emulator or on
> the device. Is there something like the following code? Perhaps an API
> call?
>
> #ifdef __GNUC__
> #endif
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 15:31:05 -0700
> From: "Paul Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: CW and Win2000
>
> The problem I had was that POSE wouldn't run for some reason, so I'm back to
> 98...
>
> Paul
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:27 PM
> Subject: CW and Win2000
>
> > Anybody using CW5 with the beta's of Win2000 ?? (Actually I think it's
> now
> > RC2...) Any problems / hiccups ??
> >
> > TNX Niel
> > ------- -.. . .-- .- --... ... ... .- -------------
> > Niel Skousen: Sr.Eng, SCIENTECH.SPG/CFG, NUSI WA7SSA
> > 208.525.3742, 524.9229 FAX 529.4721 Idaho Falls ID
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] DN33wm . . . -z
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 15:34:18 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: App Emulation vs. Execution
>
> >Is there something like the following code?
> >
> >#ifdef __GNUC__
> >#endif
>
> Well, yeah, but I don't think the above does what you want it to. :-)
>
> >From the Notes.txt file:
>
> * Install a 'pose' feature so that applications can tell if they are
> running under Poser or not.
>
> You can also make a HostControl call to see what environment you're running
> under (device, emulator, or simulator), but it's not safe to make that call on
> pre-3.0 OSes, which is why I also install the 'pose' feature.
>
> - -- Keith Rollin
> - -- Palm OS Emulator engineer
>
> "Miller, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 09/28/99 02:54:55 PM
>
> Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent by: "Miller, Gary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> To: "'Palm Developer Forum'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> cc: (Keith Rollin/HQ/3Com)
> Subject: App Emulation vs. Execution
>
> How can my app tell if it's running on the emulator? I want to handle things
> differently depending upon whether my app is running on the emulator or on
> the device. Is there something like the following code? Perhaps an API
> call?
>
> #ifdef __GNUC__
> #endif
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 15:34:37 -0700
> From: "Paul Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How can I change the app name
>
> You might try Resource Edit. It allows you to edit the resources of Apps
> *ON* the pilot itself. I don't know if you can change the name of the App
> or the Icon.. I don't think you can use it to change anything on the built
> in apps...
>
> Paul
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:31 PM
> Subject: How can I change the app name
>
> > Can you programmatically change the application
> > name that is displayed below the icon on the palm?
> >
> > Is there an api that I could call? or is this a
> > "hack" into the resource kind of thing?
> >
> > If anyone has done something like this, i'd appreciate
> > a pointer in the right direction.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 15:55:07 -0700
> From: Danny Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How can I change the app name
>
> At 1:31 PM -0700 9/28/99, Mike Smith wrote:
> >Can you programmatically change the application
> >name that is displayed below the icon on the palm?
> >
> >Is there an api that I could call? or is this a
> >"hack" into the resource kind of thing?
>
> The key word is "programmatically". I think you should be able to rename the
> application database using DmSetDatabaseInfo. You'll need to get the card
> number and local ID of the application database first using SysCurAppDatabase.
> This probably won't work for apps in ROM. No hack should be necessary.
> - -
> Danny Epstein, Applied Thought Corporation
> Have friends with Palm organizers? Get BeamBooks!
> http://www.appliedthought.com/beambooks
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 16:03:42 -0700
> From: Ben Darnell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: How can I change the app name
>
> On Tue, Sep 28, 1999 at 01:31:57PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote:
> > Can you programmatically change the application
> > name that is displayed below the icon on the palm?
> >
> > Is there an api that I could call? or is this a
> > "hack" into the resource kind of thing?
> >
> > If anyone has done something like this, i'd appreciate
> > a pointer in the right direction.
>
> The launcher gets the app names from a resource in the app database,
> type 'tAIN', number 1000. Just use the appropriate Dm* calls to get
> this resource and edit it. This won't work while the launcher is
> running, and it won't work on built-in apps or apps put in flash by
> FlashPro.
>
> HTH,
> - -Ben
> - --
> Ben Darnell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www4.ncsu.edu/~bgdarnel/thoughtstream/
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:02:08 -0700
> From: "Loh Kok Jien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Can the application installaed in the palm in someway?
>
> Hi All,
> We are trying to put some confidential information into the Palm
> application. I just wonder after the application installed into the palm. Is
> there anyway to cracked it and peek into the information? can it be
> downloaded into desktop from the palm for debugging or diassemble into any
> kind form to read the information?
>
> Very much appreciated for the advice.
>
> KJ Loh
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:20:26 -0700
> From: "Jens Rupp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Can the application installaed in the palm in someway?
>
> Hi
>
> > Hi All,
> > We are trying to put some confidential information into the Palm
> > application. I just wonder after the application installed into the palm.
> Is
> > there anyway to cracked it and peek into the information? can it be
> > downloaded into desktop from the palm for debugging or diassemble into any
> > kind form to read the information?
> Yes, it is possible to see any information stored on the palm. I guess you
> have to go for some encryptions. Of course that can be cracked too with a
> dissassembler...
>
> Jens
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:22:38 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: prevent beaming
>
> Hi All,
>
> Is there a way that I can prevent beaming when my application is
> running?
>
> Thanks
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:36:34 -0700
> From: "SnerdiWQ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Can the application installaed in the palm in someway?
>
> Cracking a palm application is the same easy as doing with a program for
> desktop!
>
> Applications installed into the palm ,surely,can be downloaded ,but who will
> do such things, unless it is worth or insteresting enough!
>
> You can encrypt your confidential information !
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 17:52:20 -0700
> From: Alpal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: prevent beaming
>
> Have you tried turning it off using the 'Prefs' feature under the volume
> settings?
>
> At 05:18 PM 9/28/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> >Hi All,
> >
> >
> >Is there a way that I can prevent beaming when my application is
> >running?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> Allen Shymchuk
> http://www.asynccomputing.com/
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 18:49:21 -0700
> From: "udtha pradeep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Network Settings
>
> Hi All
>
> Is there anyway that I can enter a new network interface(like Internet
> Service Provider, SMTP server address, POP3 srvr address, and phone # etc.,)
> into network panel programatically using Network Library functions and make
> it active.
> Any help in this issue will be higly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 19:44:10 -0700
> From: "Chris Antos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: CW and Win2000
>
> i've been using POSE with several builds of Win2K including Beta3 and RC2.
> it's been working fine for me for months (several versions of POSE, too).
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: CW and Win2000
>
> > The problem I had was that POSE wouldn't run for some reason, so I'm back
> to
> > 98...
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Niel Skousen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:27 PM
> > Subject: CW and Win2000
> >
> >
> > > Anybody using CW5 with the beta's of Win2000 ?? (Actually I think it's
> > now
> > > RC2...) Any problems / hiccups ??
> > >
> > > TNX Niel
> > > ------- -.. . .-- .- --... ... ... .- -------------
> > > Niel Skousen: Sr.Eng, SCIENTECH.SPG/CFG, NUSI WA7SSA
> > > 208.525.3742, 524.9229 FAX 529.4721 Idaho Falls ID
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] DN33wm . . . -z
> > >
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 20:06:29 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: prevent beaming
>
> Allen,
>
> yes, but how can I do this from within a program?
> I've locked through 'preferences.h' but couldn't find an entry which
> can
> be set.
>
> Any idea??
>
> Alpal wrote:
> >
> > Have you tried turning it off using the 'Prefs' feature under the volume
> > settings?
> >
> > At 05:18 PM 9/28/1999 -0700, you wrote:
> > >Hi All,
> > >
> > >
> > >Is there a way that I can prevent beaming when my application is
> > >running?
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > Allen Shymchuk
> > http://www.asynccomputing.com/
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 21:42:40 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Tables ....
>
> Hi All,
> Have just started using the Table resource. Some sample code on table
> usage is available in the online O'reilley
> programming guide.
> In the Third Party books, functions for Table are there in Ref1.
>
> tableP = (TablePtr) GetObjectPtr (MainTab1Table );
> TblSetColumnUsable (tableP,0,true);
> TblSetColumnUsable (tableP,1,true);
> TblSetItemStyle (tableP,0,0,numericTableItem);
> // Suppose u want to write an interger '10' at
> - say, row 0, col 0 in the table
> TblSetItemInt (tableP,0,0,10);
> Same way u can read from a record , fill the table, and draw the
> table.
> Now where i am stuck is:
> Has Anyone used a horizontal scrollbar with a Table?
>
> Regards,
> Ramel Levin
> CTO
> The PalmMate Team
>
> Gotta a Palm? Gotta visit www.PalmMate.com
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:36 PM
> Subject: Tables ....
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'm in the urgent need to understand tables in order to display a list of
> > records. Is there a crash course on the net avail that guides me through
> the
> > usage of tables ?
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Ole
> >
> >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 21:49:52 -0700
> From: "Maha Sharabinth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Question about Network Hotsync, Multithreading etc
>
> 1. I have installed the Network Hotsync option with the Hotsync manager and
> according to the instruction did a loac hotsync with my test device which is
> a
> Symbol 1500 device. After this, still I cannot see the Network Hotsync
> related menu options for the HotSync Application. Do we need to install the
> netwok related .prc file manually ? If so where to get this file and is it a
> free software to use ?
>
> 2. Does the Hotsync Manager is a multithreaded software ? Will it support
> multiple simultaneous network hotsync requests for different users either
> via
> Modem Hotsync with RAS or direct Network Hotsync ?
>
> 3. To do a Modem Sync with NT RAS server, do I need to install any other
> software on the device ? Someone has mentioned about MS-Chap... If so, is
> there any licence issue to use it in the device ?
>
> Any help appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Maha
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: 28 Sep 1999 22:00:02 -0700
> From: Danny Epstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: prevent beaming
>
> At 5:18 PM -0700 9/28/99, Bastian wrote:
> >Is there a way that I can prevent beaming when my application is
> >running?
>
> You could open the IR library in your AppStart routine and close it in your
> AppStop routine. This'll prevent incoming beams while your app is running.
> - -
> Danny Epstein, Applied Thought Corporation
> Have friends with Palm organizers? Get BeamBooks!
> http://www.appliedthought.com/beambooks
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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