> These reorganizations will take place after prc-tools-0.6.0, however. First I
> will have to make the prc-tools-0.6.0 formal release (what I have now, although
> perfectly stable, is technically a beta), and like all previous prc-tools
> releases, it will have to ship with PilRC. Before you started aggressively
> defending Palm in their hoarding of prc-tools, I was planning on including your
> current version 2.5b3 in there. I won't be able to do it in the current
> situation, however. As a GNU software maintainer, I cannot support or endorse
> anyone engaging in free software hoarding. Since you supported and endorsed
> Palm's hoarding of prc-tools and the PalmOS gcc programming environment, that
> makes you engaged in free software hoarding, and me using or endorsing any
> software maintained by you would constitute me supporting/endorsing you.
> Therefore, I won't be able to ship or endorse your PilRC version 2.5 with prc-
> tools-0.6.0 and will instead ship Wes Cherry's last version 2.4, unless you
> change your attitude toward Palm's hoarding of prc-tools and toward our
> project. This is what I recommend you consider doing if you are interested in
> having as many people as possible using your PilRC and respecting you as the
> maintainer.

  um... "hoarding"? i really dont mind about the two different versions
  of prc-tools. am i considered a "hoarder" because i prefer to use the
  prc-tool set that John has built?

  for me to be "non-hoarding" - must i use your version?

  i of course want to see *one* version of prc-tools. and i suggested
  previously that you and John join forces in some way top agree on
  a standard for these development teams. your constant baggering of
  each other does not support the developers who use prc-tools. it just
  makes them want to use something like CodeWarrior instead, because 
  you are making the environment unstable.

  to be honest with you, i dont care about this GNU crap you are throwing
  at me.. it is just a load of BULLSHIT. free software is free software.
  i dont endorse the prc-tools of palm, nor do i endorse the prc-tools
  that you maintain. if someone else started writing a new prc-tools, and
  it worked for me? i would use it.

  do you see me linking to a specific version of prc-tools on my website?

  i think you are taking this a little bit personally, and seriously this
  is not profressional at all. i dont reference prc-tools at all in the
  documentation (hence, not making a LEAN towards you or John). on my 
  website i state:

   "... so the entire Palm Computing Platform development community can
        obtain the latest and greated of PilRC ..."

  this means, i dont mind people using CodeWarrior NOR either version of
  prc-tools. if i personally prefer to use the prc-tools available that
  John has built? that has nothing to do with the "discussions" about 
  if or not PilRC can be "bundled" with either version.

  wes: have a chat with michael, it would be best in the development 
       community if you suggest that the LATEST (v2.5b3) version of
       PilRC be shipped, and not an older version like 2.4

  2.4 has no color support - and you will only be reducing the "potential"
  set of users for your version of prc-tools.. why develop when you cannot
  have color?

  i really want to see the end of this "child like" behavior.. it is
  starting to go too far. you are both grownups.. either go outside and
  fight it out, or be sensible about it and merge your development 
  efforts.. i know it will be hard for your EGO.. but think about
  everyone else in this case.

  palmos-dev-forum: although we have not heard from michael recently,
                    i thought it was appropriate to let you know about
                    these issues outlined here.

  please do not start this as a HUGE thread again on the mailing list.
  any comments please forward to:

    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  hopefully, ONE day these two "unix geeks" will sort out there 
  differences and allow the development to go on. i would strongly 
  suggest that someone else, NOT John nor Michael take over the 
  maintainership of prc-tools. neither of them are appropriate for the
  job if they cannot sort out their differences.

  cheers.

az.
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