Sorry, I got into the habit of calling it Flash...I believe others
had referred to it as such awhile back (which is why I don't know 
why some people had called it that, besides getting the Flash RAM and
ordinary RAM cards confused...I seem to remember this exact thread, 
oddly enough)...I always just called them RAM cards prior to that.  

But the concept is there:  You need current to keep the data on the 
RAM card.  If you can't, you can try a Flashing utility if you have
the Flash capability.

And yes, TRGPro doesn't work  with unflashable Palms.  However, it's 
the only thing (besides JackFlash and a couple other apps in Beta or 
released only to developers registered with some of the manufacturers'
developer programs) that will keep your app (besides backing it up, 
but that's another story altogether) on the unit.  Personally, though, 
I like the option of deleting my software if I don't want it...its 
useful in vertical industries and in retail/PoS systems, though.

Anyway, it's stated on TRGPro's website that some Palms don't have Flash
memory...if you know your Palm is unflashable and you try to flash it
anyway...that's your problem.  ;)

-Rus

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Brian Mathis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 11:59 AM
>To: Palm Developer Forum
>Subject: RE: Question about Palm Apps
>
>
>On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Nesse, Rustin wrote:
>> Yes.  Check out www.trgpro.com .
>> 
>> If the Palm's batteries are dead, there's no current to
>> be able to preserve the state of the Flash RAM, so your apps
>> get hosed.  Otherwise, the Flash ROM is preserved and your
>> preferences are set back to the factory prefs.
>> -Rus
>
>Please don't confuse people with inaccurate terminology.
>
>All Palm devices have regular, normal, vanilla RAM.  This 
>requires power
>to maintain the memory.  All data and 3rd party apps are stored there. 
>
>Some Palm devices have Flash RAM, in which the OS and builtin apps are
>stored.  It is possible to use a tool like TRGpro to write to 
>this memory.
>This memory does not require power to maintain itself.
>
>The devices that don't have Flash RAM have a Mask ROM.  This 
>is permanant,
>physically unalterable memory.  No power is needed because there is a
>physical imprint of the programs molded into the ROM die itself.
>
>There is no such thing as "Flash ROM", afaik.
>
>-- 
>Brian Mathis
>Direct Edge
>http://www.directedge.com
>
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