hello Jeff,
 I had a few questins about development for palm using J2mE. currently we
are working on desingning a  full scale application for the palm OS 3.0. nOw
i wanted to know is it advisable to use J2ME and what are the advantages and
what are the sdk's or softwares or development environments that i would
have to set up to use J2ME.

Regards,
Vishal

-----Original Message-----
From: DIAMOND JEFF [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 9:53 AM
To: Palm Developer Forum
Subject: Re: Finding Developers - Install Aide how?


What you need to do sounds like something I need to do - in fact sounds
like something many people would like to do.  Although I haven't found
any answers yet.

You'd think that if enough people had succeeded at this than there would
be some examples somewhere...

Is it possible that it goes against Palm's guidelines to write desktop
software that directly interacts in this way?  Maybe this is considered
to be short circuiting the basic system that is aimed at users.. ?

Tom Zerucha wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Aug 28, 2000 at 01:43:49PM -0400, Brian Mathis wrote:
> > On Mon, 28 Aug 2000, Tom Zerucha wrote:
> > [...]
> > > The second question concerns doing an install conduit, specifically
> > > asking for an example that installs a database with all the calls in
> > > context.  They say use the install aide, and list all the calls, but
> > > nothing between.  There are NO official palm examples, at least for
> > > Windows.  Alternately, how to call the install tool.
> >
> > In other words, "Palm won't write my program for me"?  They gave you the
> > info you probably need, unless you are trying to do something
> > non-standard.  I'm looking in the docs right now, and it seems (based on
> > your short description here) PltInstallFile() would do the trick.  What
> > else do you need?  Of course you'd need to write the supporting code
> > around it.
> 
> PltInstallFile requires a user id as a parameter, and there is no
> "default" user.  Do I just grab whatever is in the first slot in the
> get user list call?  Can I just leave this NULL (it doesn't seem like
> it).  Is this called from a conduit DLL or external EXE program (at
> least under windows - these seem to be integrated on the Mac)?
> 
> I identified the call early on.  And the fact that I have to write
> supporting code around it.  Precisely what that supporting code has to
> do and how to make it do it IS the question.  No they don't have to
> write it for me, but they should tell me what to write (or provide an
> example).
> 
> There are various examples floating around, but they don't have any
> comments either way from anyone from Palm Inc saying that is the right
> or wrong way to do things.
> 
> I am actually trying to avoid doing something nonstandard, but there
> is NO information as to what that standard is.  Just a bunch of
> disconnected calls into various DLLs.
> 
> I know how to make it work by hacking the registry and doing file
> copies because I can see what happens when the installer does its
> thing.  I don't know how to produce the same effect with Palm's calls.
> Especially if the program runs somewhere outside the palm install
> directory, which is very likely since I am writing a utility, not a
> conduit - how do I use a DLL I can't find?
> 
> No, they don't give the information I need, or at least I am unable to
> interpret what I have.  I haven't asked many questions on the PalmOS
> API, nor about the conduit API because the information for those
> things IS available and there are enough pieces floating around to
> understand what each call does in the context of the system.
> 
> That is not true of the install aide API, nor is the installer program
> documented (I can blindly pass it lists of files as if they were
> dragged and dropped on the icon, but that doesn't seem to work all the
> time nor on all systems - that generated a lot of bug reports on lots
> of windows systems).
> 
> I have a PDB (or prc) somewhere on a windows system (95,98,NT, or 2K)
> and would like to have it installed next hotsync.  I only have a call
> that takes a parameter that I don't know how to set (calls returning a
> list of possible settings isn't the same thing) in an DLL I can't
> find.
> 
> For now, my users have to generate the pdb somewhere they can write to
> and manually do the install.
> 
> If it's that simple, it should be shorter than this message:
> 
> installpdb(char *pdbpath) {
> //Insert your reply here
> PltInstallFile(
> //and here
> );
> }
> main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
> if( argc != 2) exit(-1);
> installpdb(argv[1]);
> }
> 
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