I saw this in action once at an IBM sponsored event after Java One, it looks
pretty cool, but nothing really new under the sun (like most software from
IBM). What would've been really interesting is really good dynamic
code-hiding, something I've yet to see implemented really well.  I've never
liked Java based UI apps, even though I used to write applets. Things
written in Swing or its counterparts are always more sluggish than natively
written apps.  One good relevant example is PilRCEdit, an app that really
needs to be recoded in Win32. To this day I've yet to see a really
successful end user app coded in Java. (Anyone remember the whole Netscape
Java edition fiasco?) It's good for a quick-and-dirty prototype, but when
you get serious you resort back to Win32/GTK/Carbon or whatever your native
GUI framework is.
I'm sure it's fine for coding things in Java or J2EE or whatever its called
now (like Borland's J Builder and what used to be Symantec Visual Cafe) but
I doubt it's really useful for coding Palm apps. Emacs is probably better
suited for the job than eclipse.
As for VC++ being able to build PRC files, it's covered in an old FAQ whose
URL escapes me at the moment. Basically you need to reconfigure the make
program that VS uses. I've done this before myself once for building a
system driver, but after a couple days I resorted back to the command line
anyway. VS has some pretty neat widgets for perusing OO code, but its editor
is just plain lacking, and unless you are going to use Win32/MFC, there's
almost no point.  Also, since gcc's error format is different from ms's
compiler, so that the IDE won't be able to locate the errors for you. Guess
you could rewrite gcc to output the correct error format (like anyone is
really going to do that).



----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: Tell me is VC++ is able to make .prc file


> From: "Alan Ingleby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > "Chris Tutty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:96907@palm-dev-forum...
> > > From: "Stringer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > But the MetroWerks design is quite different, with its own strengths
> > > > and weaknesses., and switching between all the UI's can be
> > > > a little weird at times.
> > > Roll on Eclipse.
> > > http://www.eclipse.org/
> >
> > Hmm interesting concept, but it is useful for anything yet?
> >
> I've had a junior using it for porting some in-house Access apps
> to Java/MySQL and it's worked fine.  The C framework doesn't
> seem to be quite there yet, but there's a great deal of potential,
> including what looks like a good code templates implementation.
>
> I think it's got two strengths: firstly you can download the
> full source (Java) so it's infinitely reconfigurable, and secondly
> IBM, Borland and a stack of other companies are pouring
> bucketloads of money into it, possibly under a project subtitled
> "The courts won't let us give away a Visual Studio competitor
> but we can sure as hell fund an open source project that has the
> same effect".
>
> Definitely worth keeping an eye on, particularly by anyone
> selling IDE's.
>
> Chris Tutty
>
>
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