Sorry I have to agree with the original poster of this
one.  I've used a lot of IDE's for Java, C/C++ and the
MAKE/ANT environments are much preferrable than the
hit the GUI button to build.  Yes it is much easier
for the newer project resources to get going and be
productive in the GUI environment but the ability to
control and execute with-in a MAKE/ANT environment far
surpasses anything in my mind that the GUI presents to
the user.

For example with Java and JBuilder, I actually prefer
using the IDE with all of it's capabilities and
insight into the code for editing but when it comes to
building and execution I prefer to use ANT to kick-off
the compile and perform the necesssary packaging and
Junit test execution.

But this is just IMO...

Craig.
--- Jim Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Well, hey, these *are* C/C++ tools we're providing
> 
> Don't remind me
> 
> > Besides, cygwin is based on the GNU tools, which
> were started in 
> > 1983, not the '70s! :-)
> 
> :-) The thinking behind it is definitely 1970's
> though.
> 
> > Now that I've installed them and had a chance to
> play with them, I can't
> > imagine having a development system without them. 
> 
> 
> I had to use the prc-tools stuff for a PalmOS
> programming talk at BorCon
> last year, and the palaver I went through to get
> everything installed
> (and then get it working with C++BuilderX).
> Nightmare. And then there
> was the horror that is a makefile :-) I'd forgotten
> how bad they could
> be. Cygwin is a complication I could do without,
> frankly, as I can't see
> how it benefits me at all, and it was a major
> contributor to the
> installation problems I had.
> 
> Cheers,
> Jim Cooper
> 
> _______________________________________________
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