Actually, I did not intend to make such a device. I'm just looking for one. As far as 
selecting the right device, I agree with you, but I can't force people to change their 
device. It's just too bad PalmOne finally introduced its Universal Connector, only to 
limit it to high-end devices... Of their current models, the Zire 21, Zire 31, Zire 
72, TE and T5 all feature a mini-USB. I thus find this Universal Connector ill-named: 
it's not universal in the sense that's it's available everywhere, just that it 
combines USB and serial. "Exceptional Connector" would be less misleading!


-- 
Luc Le Blanc


> Before you go to the trouble of being the first to make such
> a device (USB_Client -> BLACK_BOX -> RS232_Serial) many palm
> devices contain a serial port.  All you need to do is buy the
> right one (i.e. don't buy a Palm Pilot Zire!!!).
> You will need to pick up a special cable that
> costs about another $30 in most cases.  All this does is bring
> out the serial port to a normal connector.  I think in some
> designs, it also puts a resistor across 2 pins to enable the
> serial port.  Done.

> If you are determined to use the USB and an off-the-shelf USB
> to Serial converter - I think there are a few palm devices
> which sport a USB host port.  But - I think these were designed
> specifically to control a USB peripheral printer.
> I think Sony makes one.  I would be surprised if it
> will work for anything but a printer though.


On Thu, 7 Oct 2004, Luciano A. Stertz wrote:

> Dave Lippincott wrote:
> > USB is host-client configuration in hardware.  The Palm hardware is a
> > client.  It will only work when connected to a host.  Most USB devices, such
> > as a USB to serial dongle, are client only.  I seriously doubt a USB to
> > serial converter would talk to the Palm (also the dongle would need to get
> > power from the Palm which doesn't provide it).  I won't say what you want is
> > impossible, I just know what doesn't work.
> > I know there are client devices like a mouse, that you can connect via USB
> > or PS2 by changing the connector.  I'm not sure what hardware considerations
> > are made for it to work.  If there is a way to open the Palm USB port in a
> > 'raw' communications mode much like you can with the IR port on non OMAP
> > unit, I think you could have a chance.  Some hardware to convert logic
> > levels and signal timings may be needed.  I have no idea if this is possible
> > but I've often thought about it.
>       That's the point. Serial communication is ridiculously simple. All you
> need is a few I/O pins and a timer. I don't know if it exists, but I
> don't think it would be too hard to build an adapter. If not through the
> USB port, maybe an IR receiver that redirects data to a serial
> interface. Wouldn't that be an interesting product? Probably there are
> more users trying to integrate their serial toys with a Palm...
>
>       Luciano Stertz
>
> >>>>Is there a serial adapter I can hook to the mini-USB port of devices
> >>>>like the PalmOne Zire or Tungsten 2 to connect them to a GPS equiped
> >>>>with a serial connector (like most of them)? Or is it jut not feasible?
> >>>
> >>>    I guess it can't be done. The palm is an USB device, and therefore
> >>>must be connected to a USB controller, can't connect to another device.
> >>
> >>Hmmm... maybe there's a chance... I was thinking in putting a
> >>USB-serial converter in the GPS and then connect to the Palm. This will
> >>not work. But If you instead put the USB-serial converter in the Palm...
> >>may be possible... I don't know how these converters work. If you can
> >>someway send / receive arbitrary data from its serial interface,
> >>technically you can communicate with any serial device...
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