Bump!

Is this not an issue for anyone else?  I'd at least like to know if
other people are able to trap fatal errors in any simulator without it
GPF'ing too.  It's not like the old days when I had the source code for
the POSE and I could just throw it in the debugger and track down the
crash myself.  Or is it? Is the source for any of the simulators
available?

Ben, do you have any ideas about what's going on here?

Thanks,

Aaron



>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aaron Hansen
>Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:26 PM
>To: Palm Developer Forum
>Subject: RE: How to find a bug that crashes Simulator?
>
>
>I have seen this happen on every simulator I've tried.  I am 
>running CW 9.3 on a WinXP box.  The simulators GPF on any 
>fatal error in my application.  The simulators do throw up 
>some warning and error messages, but if my application crashes 
>at any time then the simulator goes down too.  I've tried both 
>the Treo650 and 600, T3, T5, and the general 5.4 simulators 
>with the same result.  This makes them utterly useless when 
>debugging a crashing error.  Is this not the case for 
>everyone?  I had the impression it was a general problem with 
>the simulators, but maybe it's a configuration/settings issue?
>
>POSE does a much better job from what I've seen.  The only 
>problem is that you can't test any newer devices (like the 
>650) on it.  I use it as much as I can, and then debug on a 
>real device for the rest.
>
>I'd really like to see a resolution for this problem. Whether 
>it's a fixed simulator or just settings I need to change.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Aaron Hansen
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ton 
>>van Overbeek
>>Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 6:33 AM
>>To: Palm Developer Forum
>>Subject: Re: How to find a bug that crashes Simulator?
>>
>>
>>On 2005-09-02, Luc Le Blanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I encounter an odd crash running my own app on my T3. The
>>problem does
>>> not show on other devices, nor POSE, only on an actual T3 and the T3
>>> Simulator (I haven't checked all Simulator flavors). When I hit a 
>>> given line that calls FrmShowObject on a previously shown 
>>gadget, the
>>> Simulator plainly crashes (I naively thought it was designed to help
>>> find bugs, not to go down with them ;) I suspect some form 
>of memory 
>>> corruption occurring prior to the crash. Are there 
>>strategies to debug
>>> such problems? Is all I need for on-device debugging with CW
>>9.3 is a
>>> serial cable hooked to the T3?
>>>
>>> As a side effect, I note that sometimes, after this crash,
>>my hardware
>>> buttons get reassigned to different applications (all 4 were
>>linked to
>>> Planetarium last time) even if everything remains unchanged in the
>>> Buttons tab of the Prefs program. This and the crash also 
>>appeared on
>>> another T3.
>>>
>>
>>You have already solved the problem causing the crash, but
>>here my 5 cents worth. The T3 simulator is a release version. 
>>There is no debug version of the T3 sim. Try using the debug 
>>version of the T5 simulator. In my experience it ususally 
>>throws up a few alerts informing you about things it does not 
>>like (like forms not being full widht, etc.) before it comes 
>>to the point where it actually crashes.
>>
>>Maybe something for your next problem ...
>>
>>Ton van Overbeek
>>
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