"R. Georgeson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:31:33 +0100:
[about using another app to try to download the group list] > OK, that's got me a bit further - I shouldn't have had authentication on > - and I've managed to get Evolution to download the list of newsgroups. > With Pan the modem flickers briefly and that's it, though the event log > has now stopped complaining about 'Access to your node denied'. Doesn't > tell me anything (except Pan started), I wsh it would. > > BTW zetnet is Linux friendly and generally RFC compliant so there should > be no problems there. =8^) =8^) If Evolution downloads the newsgroup list, then you know it's not that the server got misconfigured or something and simply isn't offering it. pan /should/ get them too. At this point, you may wish to open a pan bug and see what Charles has to say about it, if you can't seem to get further. Note that you'll want to open it on new-pan, 0.1xx, preferably after updating to the latest (0.131 I believe, I compile off of SVN directly so sometimes lose track). 0.14.x and previous are specifically deprecated now, and won't have further updates or bug support, altho we do try to help here if we can (but 0.11 is beyond even that, tho I still have 0.14.x installed to start up for reference if necessary). > The other thing that I noticed was there seems to be no setting to > download bodies with headers. I'd *really* like to do that, otherwise I > have to stay online to read everything, working offline is preferred. There's no download bodies with headers option ATM. Look for it to return after 1.0 (next stable), however, as that has been a very popular request. It'll probably return in the form of an option to download based on score level (same levels as in the preferences color tab), autodownload messages scoring at least [dropdown selector], or something similar. If you really need it, you may want to stay with 0.14.x for the moment. Alternatively, do what I do for binaries (it won't work so well for text as you'll always be viewing old versions, but text generally downloads relatively fast anyway, even on dialup). Set your cache larger (this requires editing the preferences.xml file directly, as the setting isn't in the GUI prefs) than the 10 MB default (I'm working with a 12 gig cache here, so it can be quite large if necessary). Then when you are done with your existing messages, download headers, then leave pan downloading bodies. When you return, they'll be downloaded, and you can go thru them locally, before downloading headers and setting pan up for the next download bodies session once again. >> If you can't do that or as alternative server or network >> troubleshooting, there's really nothing better than a manual telnet >> session. > > Not entirely sure what I'd be looking for however. If evolution's grabbing the group list now, you know it works on the server and probably wouldn't gain much from the telnet session as far as troubleshooting this particular issue anyway. It might still be interesting/educational however, if are curious and want to try it, and as I said, the HELP command usually gives you enough to go on. I had to telnet to my mail server recently and figure out using HELP, how to manually delete a malformed spam message that was choking my regular mail client, so I know the feeling, but it was indeed interesting/educational here, besides practical as I did successfully remove the blocking message. It certainly gave me a new appreciation for how things worked back in the early days, when people routinely used telnet to fetch mail and the like. I'd hate to have to do that all the time, but it's cool that the protocol is simple enough that telnet actually works, and it's impressive just how well it /does/ work. (BTW, the same telnet troubleshooting idea can be used, on port 80 of course, to troubleshoot web site connections and fetch web pages.) Still, as I said, now that you've got evolution fetching the group list, you know that part /is/ actually working, so it probably won't help with your current pan problem any. As I said, at this point, it looks like something to bug, and see what Charles has to say about it. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
