walt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 10 Oct 2007 03:10:28 +0000:
> On Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:47:03 +0000, walt wrote: > >> ...pan treats a subscribed group (with no unread articles) exactly the >> same way it treats a new group that you've never read before -- but >> they are not at all the same... > > Oops -- important correction. Pan treats a subscribed group with *no* > articles the same as a new group. This happens only when you 'delete' > all articles on leaving the group. (Not the same as marking the group > as 'read'). The problem, and from a KDE computer control freak's perspective, this applies to some degree in general to most of the GNOME family of apps, is that the app wants to treat /all/ users as /new/ users. "Oh, but the poor [from my perspective, read 'mentally challenged'] user will get confused if there are no messages displayed and the application doesn't get in their face with an option to get messages." If I want overviews downloaded, I'll hit the hotkey to get them. If the hotkey arrangement isn't to my liking, I'll change it to better fit my style. I don't want the app popping up "useless" dialogs, and while I can understand a new user appreciating them, I OTOH appreciate applications that give me the ability to turn off such unwanted bug^h^h^hfeatures. Well, at least esc/cancel still works, and pan has configurable hotkeys. pan also has the "Get new headers when entering group" option in preferences. I don't know if you have that selected or not, but from your description, that's what you want. (Note that you can set pan to work offline and avoid the behavior temporarily if you wish.) The question, then, is whether pan is smart enough to avoid popping up that dialog if the get new headers when entering group option is checked. While changing the default fetch setting for the dialog could be controversial, arguably, if the automatic fetch-headers option is on, the popup shouldn't appear at all, at least for subscribed groups. Arguably, it should still appear for unsubscribed groups, as there's a fair likelihood that especially those on dialup do NOT want to download the whole set of available overviews/headers for a /new/ (implemented as subscribed vs. unsubscribed) group. Of course, that's what you were saying... before I decided I'd gripe about not being able to disable the automatic dialog altogether... =8^P -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman _______________________________________________ Pan-users mailing list [email protected] http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/pan-users
