Hi all,

 I second lionel. PANA fulfills DSL Forum requirements and should be
considered as a serious candidate.

 Regards,

 Julien Bournelle

On Dec 7, 2007 7:54 PM, MORAND Lionel RD-CORE-ISS
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The list of requirements is the only material available from the DSL Forum 
> and we should stay focus on!
>
> Actually I refer to a previous mail that I sent on this topic on the Intarea 
> ML:
>  (snip)
>
> "Now, one "could" say that the PANA protocol specification is "quite"
> stable as a Proposed Standard RFC is available ;) Therefore, the question is 
> quite simple: why do not simply reconsider the use of PANA in DSL 
> environment? The proposed alternative, i.e. DHCP-based authentication, that 
> is for the moment only an individual submission at IETF, will have anyway 
> impacts on the DHCP client, the DHCP server and DSL network node behaviours 
> if the goal is to have EAP in DHCP. And the proposed alternative do not 
> explain why the current possible solution(s) don't fulfil the DSL Forum 
> requirements... And I'm not sure that there is a direct link between the 
> existing use of the DHCP option 82 in DSL network leads seamlessly to 
> DHCP-EAP...
>
> At least, a pragmatic approach within IETF would be to see how PANA can 
> fulfill DSL forum security requirements, see if there is some functionality 
> gaps, see if this gap could be fulfilled with within PANA or with possible 
> add-on solutions and if not, see other alternatives should be investigated. 
> Only because IETF has already defined "the Protocol for Carrying 
> Authentication for Network Access (PANA), a network-layer transport for 
> Extensible Authentication Protocol (EAP) to enable network access 
> authentication between clients and access networks."
>
> I support the actual ongoing work in the PANA WG to clarify the fact that 
> PANA, as a candidate protocol, is fulfilling DSL requirements. It is not said 
> that PANA is the ultimate solution for DSL networks. It is just said that the 
> PANA protocol should be considered as serious candidate protocol.
>
> And I agree with the current content of the slides.
>
> Lionel
>
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Envoyé : vendredi 7 décembre 2007 19:38
> > À : [email protected]
> > Cc : Mark Townsley (townsley); Jari Arkko
> > Objet : Re: [Pana] RE: DSLF Requirement analysis
>
> >
> > I have a feeling that the two things are mixed in the
> > discussion : (i) whether a requirement is satisfied, and (ii)
> > how complex a solution would be to satisfy the requirement.
> > I suggest we focus on (i).  I have a problem with discussing
> > (ii) here, because it tends to be based on additional
> > unwritten requirements such as "number of states" and
> > "troubleshoot" and I cannot agree on arguments based on
> > unwritten requirements.
> >
> > Yoshihiro Ohba
> >
> >
> >
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