You make very compelling points. It definitely makes sense to add such an option -- at least when not connected to a parallel/remote server. If I remember correctly, IceT doesn't do well with stereo. I am going to add a feature request to the bug tracker.
Utkarsh On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:15 PM, Evan Bollig <[email protected]> wrote: > I dont agree. Opening in Stereo mode is safe even if it is not used > (it consumes a small amount of memory, but so what). Everything is 2D > if no GL commands render to back left/right buffers (i.e., the GL_BACK > buffer is always available). If you need to verify that the hardware > supports GL_STEREO, use glGetBoolean*() (or glGetInteger*() with > GL_AUX_BUFFERS to know if quad buffers are available) and initialize > GL_STEREO only on machines that can support it. > > Why would you want the user to restart paraview if maybe they dont > know their hardware and they arent sure which stereo mode to use? No! > Give them a menu option and keep them inside your software. Keep in > mind that if I and many others like me have to stop a program, modify > command line options and restart the application to get the right > environment, the whole process should take less than 10 seconds and it > must be FULLY documented or I give up and find an application that > does it better (more intuitive) with less pain. > > More reason for a stereo menu: how do you propose control of > properties like Eye Separation? Clearly the users wont know what > parameter to use until the software is running. Dont make them restart > 50 times until they get the parameter just right. Thats absurd! > > Another problem: say Im in CrystalEyes mode and I want to export a > movie. There are plenty of stereoscopic display solutions available > today. 3D computer screens, 3D movies, 3D TVs, 3D television channels. > Why cant ParaView export to stereoscopic movie formats (JPS/MPO AVI > format perhaps)? On top of that, if Im in CrystalEyes and I know the > stereo looks good, why cant I export a Stereoscopic movie AND an > anaglyph movie AND a 2D movie so my results can be viewed by audiences > with any capability? > > I just started playing with ParaViewGeo's SlideShow capabilities. Did > you know the slides also show in stereo? We're talking full 3D > stereoscopic presentations of scientific results *without* swapping > applications. Why havent you guys looked into integrating all of this? > > -Evan > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Utkarsh Ayachit > <[email protected]> wrote: >> ParaView CVS (and 3.8 onwards ) has a command line option >> --stereo-type which allows you to choose the stereo type. It's not >> really safe to change the stereo type after ParaView has been started >> (rather views have been created) since for things like Crystal Eyes, >> the option must be enabled before the rendering context is created. >> Hence, we've made it a command line option. >> >> Utkarsh >> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Evan Bollig <[email protected]> wrote: >>> What does that mean regarding the plugin. Does a plugin exist already >>> or will it need to be written? >>> >>> -Evan >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Robert Maynard <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> I meant to say 3.4 and 3.6 instead of 2.4 and 2.6. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Robert Maynard <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The patch that I have submitted was for 2.4 code base, with 2.6 all that >>>>> is needed is a custom toolbar plugin that calls setStereoType on the >>>>> currently active view. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:45 PM, Evan Bollig <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I see that ParaViewGeo has a stereo menu to allow users to select >>>>>> CrystalEyes / Anaglyph stereo modes while paraview is running (NOTE: >>>>>> without requiring a --stereo flag on the command line). It seems that >>>>>> one developer: Robert Maynard created the stereo menu and sent the >>>>>> source code (Stereo.zip) to the ITK mailing list on 9/29/2008. From >>>>>> what I can tell this message was ignored and no one attempted to >>>>>> integrate the menu into any other applications related to >>>>>> Paraview/ITK. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why? >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems obvious that this is something users need and want. We will >>>>>> be using ParaViewGeo instead of ParaView until something like this is >>>>>> added. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Evan Bollig >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> -Evan Bollig >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Powered by www.kitware.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at >>>>>> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Please keep messages on-topic and check the ParaView Wiki at: >>>>>> http://paraview.org/Wiki/ParaView >>>>>> >>>>>> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: >>>>>> http://www.paraview.org/mailman/listinfo/paraview >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> -Evan Bollig >>> [email protected] >>> [email protected] >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Powered by www.kitware.com >>> >>> Visit other Kitware open-source projects at >>> http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html >>> >>> Please keep messages on-topic and check the ParaView Wiki at: >>> http://paraview.org/Wiki/ParaView >>> >>> Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: >>> http://www.paraview.org/mailman/listinfo/paraview >>> >> > > > > -- > -Evan Bollig > [email protected] > [email protected] > _______________________________________________ Powered by www.kitware.com Visit other Kitware open-source projects at http://www.kitware.com/opensource/opensource.html Please keep messages on-topic and check the ParaView Wiki at: http://paraview.org/Wiki/ParaView Follow this link to subscribe/unsubscribe: http://www.paraview.org/mailman/listinfo/paraview
