James E Keenan wrote:
Last year there were elaborate plans for us to have a workshop on the
Saturday and Sunday before the three days of YAPC. This workshop was
to have been held in some location high on one of Pittsburgh's
mountains. The conference center looked quite delightful but, not
surprisingly, it fell through -- I think for lack of $$$. So we ended
up having the workshop in the same building on the Carnegie-Mellon
campus that the YAPC for-fee classes were being held in. Which was
all the better, as far as I was concerned.
If I weren't being careful with my sarcasm, I might make an analogy with
Parrot itself. :-)
I think it's basically up to us, the Parrot developers, to (a) decide
what business we want to conduct in a workshop; (b) decide whether we
want to have it the weekend before YAPC or the Thursday/Friday YAPC;
and then (c) discuss with the conference organizers what space is
available at Ohio State in those time periods.
My own two cents:
First cent:
I would like to hear what the Rakudo folks' launch plan for Rakudo*
is. If the launch is on track for April 2010 as pmichaud presented
last year, then YAPC::NA::2010 will be the first major Perl conference
where we have that "usable subset of the Perl 6 specification" ready
for people to play with. As I argued at our online summit in
December, a successful launch of Rakudo* is the best possible
advertising for Parrot.
You're right. And what's more, if Rakudo* is available, it might behoove
for the Parrot conference to fall well after YAPC, to generate some
enthusiasm. (Although this may be a one shot deal.)
Second cent:
Whatever we do decide, I think the fact of having a workshop is even
more important than its content. As I have previously argued, people
in an online, open source project need to see each other F2F at least
once a year (at least those on a given continent). In particular, I
hope that our project architect and project manager can be at the
workshop this year, along with all our board members.
Agreed. I'm not sure what the geographic distribution of Parroteers is,
tho I have the impression that it's very coastal (with some "south
coast" representatives in Alabama and Texas).
(I apologize if there's a bunch of folks in the midwest that I'm
forgetting.)
While Columbus might be great for co-location with Yapc, we might
benefit from a different place if a large fraction of the group won't be
yapcing.
=Austin
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