2009/5/25 Adrian Crenshaw <[email protected]>: > At my class, you will notice at about 3min in there is some lady talking > loud on her phone, and it was very distracting for me.
Just got to 4 mins in and did notice it! > > Adrian > > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Michael Douglas <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Just have to chime in on the CPE issue. Those that are simply >> accruing CPEs and not there for the love of it is yet another symptom >> of what separates "them" from "us". >> >> Not all professions will have people who are passionate about what >> they do... however IMO InfoSec seems to not yet have done a good job >> of culling the posers. >> >> (enough ranting about that) >> >> When I present, I try to use those CPE snaggers as a barometer. If I >> can get them into the session, that I'm fairly confident that I'm >> making this meaningful for everyone. The only problem that I >> routinely see with this is that I wind up having to shoot a bit lower >> than I'd like. Yet when I ask around, most folks seem to like the >> lowered bar. :-( I think the issue is that most folks who go to >> these events don't actually want their hair blown back. They just >> want a few tips and tricks... If you throw them into the deep end, >> they don't all float! ;-p >> >> Well that's been my experience anyway. >> - Mick >> >> On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Adrian Crenshaw <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > Well, I'm guessing on the juse showing up for CPE. Some of the folks >> > were >> > accountants as I understand it, and really did not seem to understand >> > the >> > tech. Also, I offered to hand around after class to let people play with >> > the >> > tech, and most wanted to be out of there when the 4hrs were up. >> > >> > I could do timing better next time, but these classes I've been teaching >> > are >> > one offs. The next one will be on a different topic. >> > >> > As for Christopher's question, I have no idea how much time I spent >> > outside >> > of class just getting things to work. I spent a lot of time just getting >> > all >> > of my demos in order and writing notes for them. >> > >> > Adrian >> > >> > >> > On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:11 AM, Daniel [Virturity.com] >> > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >4. Lots of folks will show up for CPE, but may not really be >> >> > interested >> >> in the subject. >> >> >> >> Thats interesting. It wouldnt even cross my mind to spend time >> >> somewhere >> >> just for CPE if im not interested. How did you notice some werent >> >> really >> >> there for the topic? >> >> Btw. how many attendees do you have for these ISSA events? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 2009-05-24 at 19:20 -0400, Adrian Crenshaw wrote: >> >> > Well, I ran the class Saturday, unfortunately things di not go as >> >> > smoothly as I would have liked. Originally, this was going to be one >> >> > 4hr class, but Jeff had something come up so he could not cover >> >> > WEP/WPA cracking, and my section took so long that Brian never got a >> >> > chance to present his material on DD-WRT. I'm hoping to get them back >> >> > to do a part 2 of this video. In this section I cover the basics of >> >> > WiFi, good chipsets, open file shares, monitor mode, war driving >> >> > tools, testing injection, deauth attacks and the evil twin attack. >> >> > Some of this comes out as kind of a stream of consciousness, but >> >> > hopefully you can find some useful nuggets from my brain dump of what >> >> > I've learned about 802.11a/b/g/n hacking. As far as classes goes this >> >> > is the mostly complicated one I've set up. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/802-11-wireless-security-class-part-1 >> >> > >> >> > Things I've learned by trying to teach this class: >> >> > >> >> > 1. Wireless classes take lots of wires. Brian and I had to run a lot >> >> > of cables to get all of our routers, video equipment and laptops >> >> > functioning. >> >> > 2. I have no idea how long it will take me to demo something live. >> >> > 3. The Jeffersonville library needs more APs. >> >> > 4. Lots of folks will show up for CPE, but may not really be >> >> > interested in the subject. >> >> > 5. Don't chew gum while teaching. >> >> > 6. 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