Hey Rick, you've only hacked Windows 98 machines...You need to improve your 
strength of schedule and exploit some remote boxes to move up in the polls :-)


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[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Hayes
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:13 PM
To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Not this crap again..

Is there a computer security expert ranking system?  If so, is it like
the BCS, where they use some higher algorithm based on the vendor's
poll, computer average and hacker poll?

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jason Wood <[email protected]> wrote:
> I got a chuckle out of this line from the article.
>
> "Drawbacks: Talk about stress. If a system is infiltrated by a virus or
> hacker, it could mean lights out for the security consultant's career. "This
> is a job you can't afford to ever fail in," says Evans."
>
> What was funny to me was I remember a thread a while back where a lot of us
> talked about getting into infosec **because** we got hacked.  I suppose I
> was just doing sysadmin work at the time, so you could point to that as a
> reason why I've never had much career trouble.  Still, I had to grin at it.
>
>
> Jason
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:06 AM, Soft Reset <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hmmm...I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm not seeing why he's *is* a
>> fraud?  I understand how this profile can portray us in a negative light as
>> people who see *us* may think we were once on the black-hat side of things,
>> but do you all think its impossible for someone to switch to the white-side?
>>
>> Although to be honest, no, I wouldn't trust him.  Convicted in 2002,
>> served 16 months means he was *probably* still in jail or just out when he
>> started his company in 2003.   And "...that year, computer security stores
>> contracted to sell his cyber security software."  So, in less than a year of
>> getting out of prison, he has a company and "computer security stores" sold
>> his software?  WTF???
>>
>> Ok, maybe I understand now...maybe it was just too early in the day.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 4:21 AM, John Strand <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Check it out:
>>>
>>> http://money.cnn.com/magazines/moneymag/bestjobs/2009/snapshots/8.html
>>>
>>> On the plus side.  I think it is nice that we have some job security...
>>>
>>> On the downside....  Why did they have to go and find "The Worlds #1
>>> Hacker?"
>>>
>>> Now anyone that wants to get into this field thinks that all they need
>>> is a CISSP and to be an asshat.
>>>
>>> Wait.....  That might be accurate.
>>>
>>> John Strand
>>> CISSP, GCIH, GCFW, ' or 1=1; --, Asshat
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