I agree with your point.  However I have considered getting a masters or even 
an MBA for the same reason he mentioned.  The people that matter (the ones that 
will pay me the big bucks) seem to respect the paper more than the knowledge or 
abilities.

Jeremy Pommerening

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--- On Tue, 2/1/11, Adrian Crenshaw <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Adrian Crenshaw <[email protected]>
Subject: [Pauldotcom] The future, what employers look for, and degrees
To: "PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List" <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 4:50 PM

    Ok, I was speaking with someone today from a different field today that has 
a masters. I alluded to the fact that I'm loosing interest in the "Security 
Informatics" masters program I'm in because of lack of perceived applicability, 
time taken that I could use learning other things, and it seems like there is a 
huge disconnect between academia vs. what I see in the industry (through my 
admittedly limited experience listening to podcast, reading forums/mailing 
list, going to conferences, etc). His take was that I'd be competing with 
people in the future, and the masters degree could likely be the deciding 
factor. Do you think that is really true? Or do you think employers will start 
to see academia as it has become to be a largely wasteful exercise vs. getting 
your name out there and learning/getting experience on your own? When I hear 
about people going into great debt to get something that amounts to a union 
card in many cases (a degree), it kind
 of makes be hope the whole system can be reformed. For what I've seen in the 
industry, it seems to mater more what people know you for than any degree you 
have. Am I wrong? Anyone got a different way to look at it?


Adrian


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