HOW IS SEKURE NETWORK FORMD >:\
On 2011/07/05 10:31 AM, John Strand wrote: > Mike, > > Are you new here? > > I kid, I kid. > > John > > On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Mike Patterson <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 2011/07/05 9:08 AM, Ron Gula wrote: >>> On 7/2/2011 11:41 AM, Michael Lubinski wrote: >>>> Read: >>>> >> http://blog.zeltser.com/post/6479619232/protean-information-security-architecture >>>> >>>> Knowing this list has a significant amount of pen testers and such, what >>>> say you? >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I really like the emotion behind this concept, but don't like this for >>> practical reasons. >> [..] >>> I don't mind at all having fake targets on the inside of your network, >>> but the idea of constantly reconfiguring the data structures and servers >>> as a method to thwart pen testers is no substitute for patching, tight >>> inbound/outbound ACLs, network monitoring and log analysis. >> >> My first thought was "it must be nice to have the kind of free time >> after doing. . ." everything you say, and more, including convincing >> sysadmins that yes, the firewall really is there to help you and yes, >> you really do need to figure out precisely how that workstation got >> popped and writing documentation and helping others to do the same and >> responding (or actively ignoring) RIAA/MPAA complaints and figuring out >> if the lack of IDS logs is because of a NIC failure, driver bug, OS bug, >> disk failure, something else, going to meetings with your co-workers or >> management... all the other stuff blue-team IT types do on a daily >> basis. Or would, if they had 48 hour days. >> >> And THEN, when you DO have that kind of time, you get to spend MORE time >> ensuring that your new honeypots don't actually become a vulnerability >> themselves. While you convince management that they're necessary, and >> try to assuage the fears of NOC monkeys, and... >> >> OK, yeah, confusing the attacker's well and good, but unless you've got >> all the other ducks in a row, you might be finding the root of all evil >> - premature optimisation. Lenny's idea is nice in theory, but in >> practise, I think it belongs near the bottom of the priority list. >> >> Mike >> _______________________________________________ >> Pauldotcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
