Paul, I think you need to find a company that respects you more! On Mar 11, 2012 9:48 PM, "Tom Handlon" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I found that for the company I currently work for, telecommuting is > not an option although others still do it. There is a serious > perception that those that work from home are basically on vacation, > taking advantage while doing nothing. Although I ended up working > around the clock, always on, always working - this was seen as "laying > around in my pajamas". It was miserable because I was killing myself > yet it was unseen by many no matter what was accomplished. -Not by > all management, least of all my direct report, but enough to realize > it wasn't a smart career move. I pushed for office space and got it > so now I get less done in a longer period of time, but at least I am > seen "at my desk". > > I know firsthand that some in management look upon those that get in > before 8 as superstars regardless of the what they actually > contribute. > > It really depends on the company and the people at the company. It > is all about perception and the episode of Seinfeld where George > leaves his car at work and gains a ton of respect rings true. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUwSxqnRW-8 > > > > On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:37 AM, Nick Drage <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 07:10:30PM +0000, Robin Wood wrote: > >> On 9 March 2012 07:32, S. R. White <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > >> > Ok, this is so vaguely infosec related I almost hesitate to bring it > up. > >> > Many pen-testers/security folks seem to work from home/telecommute, > more so > >> > than any other field I personally know. I'd love to get folk's > thoughts on > >> > how they carry on that lifestyle. A few breakout questions: > >> > > >> > 1. How do you stay productive enough so you are still of value to > >> > your employer? > > > > Interesting work, self-discipline, both of which I mostly have most of > > the time ;) > > > > The other side is to ensure that you are seen to be productive - tell > > seniors what you've been up to, keep than up to date on projects. > > > >> > 2. Do you feel isolated at home, and what do you do for a social > >> > life? > > > > No, but I use online methods to stay in touch with colleagues and > > friends alike - just keep in mind that half an hour chatting to a friend > > can feel like five minutes, whereas five minutes working on a proposal > > can feel like half an hour. > > > >> > 3. Any tips on separation of home life and work life? > > > > Depending on the nature of your work this may not be possible, in the > > same way that you'll deal with personal stuff during work hours, work > > stuff might pop up during personal hours. Use your home life as a break > > from work, i.e. doing the washing up is a ten minute break from your > > desk when exploit x or software y isn't doing what it should. > > > >> > 4. Anything else you think an infosec telecommuter should think about? > > > > As has been said, security. > > > >> I've been working from home for the last 6+ years, I have one desk > >> completely covered in stuff, I get distracted about once an hour > >> during the day to hold the baby while wife does something, I take > >> random amounts of time for lunch and take it at random times. Unless > >> I'm doing a test where I have specific times from a client I start > >> when I want, finish when I want and usually work a few hours at night. > > > > I.E. this is roughly my approach, but maybe not as well thought out - > > the "separate room to work in" idea is a good one, but depends on your > > circumstances. > > > >> It seems completely disorganized but works brilliantly for me. Guess > >> how you handle home working depends on your own personality, I know > >> some people who just can't do it, some who feel isolated, some who > >> can't motivate themselves, I've managed to avoid all of that. > > > > Seconded, there's a lot of variety in what suits people; so to the OP > > look for what suits you, rather than for the ideal solution. I.E. I've > > looked at some of the GTD stuff for personal time management, but it > > doesn't seem to fit my kind of work, in the same way you may find > > "ideal" from home solutions, but they may not fit your particular > > requirements or personality. > > > > I've found http://www.workshifting.com/ a useful resource for the area > > in general, more to provoke thoughts then provide solutions. > > > > -- > > "It's too bad that people that really understand geopolitics and > economics > > are too busy with Internet forums" > > _______________________________________________ > > Pauldotcom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >
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