Josh,
If you have time I would like to discuss, offline, your setup and how
you run/setup things to accomplish this same goal. My original goal was
to use Open Source where I can, but one of the things I knew going into
this was that world wide we are deploying QRadar very soon so whatever
work I do now I want to work with that. I don't want to spend all this
time building a program only to start over with something else once
QRadar is deployed. Hence the reason I reached out to the community for
others opinions and advice.
Let me know offline if you have time to talk and how to reach you.
--
Thank you,
Robert Miller
http://www.armoredpackets.com
Twitter: @arch3angel
On 12/11/12 1:38 PM, Josh More wrote:
I don't think Nessus and Nexpose is comparing apples and apples. The
full Security Center compares more fairly to the full Nexpose line.
Personally, what I like about Nessus is that, when paired with
Metasploit community and a few other tools, I can cover 90% of what
Nexpose + Metasploit Pro gives me for a substantial reduction of the
cost. It takes a bit more time perhaps, but I find that my
understanding of what's truly going on is greatly improved. Then,
when you add webby tools like BurpSuite Pro, you can boost your
capabilities beyond what Nexpose can do (at least the last time I
checked).
That's not to say, of course, that my way is right for everyone. It's
just that I've found that the advantages that tools like Nexpose and
Core give a team over their open source equivalents are generally
useful for experienced teams. For inexperienced teams, I've more
often found them used as crutches that hinder the learning process and
I think it's an awful lot of money to pay for a disadvantage. Given
the success of those tools in the market, it may well be that my
experiences are in the minority.
In case it helps anyone else, my paid tools are Nessus, BurpSuite Pro
and Maltego. Everything else I use is free and open source. This works
well until that approach gives you full coverage (which takes a long
time for smaller / less mature organizations), then the more expensive
tools can accelerate your approach or give you a wider range of coverage.
-Josh More
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Arch Angel <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Honestly Albert, I can't say that I have a legitment "reason" per
say. I have found, in my experience, to get the full benefit of
Nessus you really need Security Center and the other products, but
in general that's not a real reason, just a personal opinion. I
have just seen NexPose as a better product over all, in look,
feel, and acurancy. However, again this is just my opinion I
really don't have a reason outside personal preference I guess.
I'm not opposed to diving deeper into Nessus and learning the
advanatges or capabilities though.
Robert
(arch3angel)
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM, Albert R. Campa
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
stand alone Nessus does integrate with Qradar.
I really like Nessus as a scanner and also as you say, using
audit files.
SANS training like 560 or 542 are both good, offsec training
is great as well.
im interested to know why you dont like Nessus as a
vulnerability scanner?
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Arch Angel
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I would like to thank everyone for the advice and
suggestions, it is truly appreciated and welcomed!
I cannot go into detail as to the company or the status
but I can say that in my region we are looking to build a
ground up program and are under Visa, MasterCard,
Discover, and ISO guidelines / requirements. We currently
have Nessus, which till I walked in had not even been
installed. As a matter of fact I asked which machine it
was on, the reply was "Well we couldn't get it licensed
because it would have required a firewall change and
that's a hassle so we just never installed it". Needless
to say it is installed and I'm working through the trials
and tribulations of red tape to get it to do more for us
than host discovery. That being said I absolutely love
Nessus but not as a vulnerability scanner. I like it
automating configuration checks, custom audit files,
checking Active Directory items, etc.. I prefer NexPose
for vulnerability and NexPose seamlessly integrates with
Q1 Labs, QRadar SIEM, which I am not sure Nessus does.
QRadar is coming down the pipe from corporate before too
long.
I also prefer to invest in good people rather than tools
which, as mention above, have a tendency to sit in the
virtual bookshelf collecting virtual dust if the people
don't know how to use them. This may end up being answered
based on $$$ over the 2013 calendar year. Unfortunately I
was not part of the 2013 budget plans, so it may end up
being nothing till 2014 :-(
For example, I am in the process of building a wireless
auditing program based on Kismet, and off the shelf
hardware. This is actually working quite well so far
during testing!
--
Thank you,
Robert Miller
http://www.armoredpackets.com
Twitter: @arch3angel
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