No, I remember WiFiFoFum doing this on Windows Mobile back in the iPaq days.  
There was no GPS…just one wifi radio.  I always wondered how it managed, since 
it was so accurate.  Somebody should find that guy and shake him down for 
answers.

--  
Hans Kokx


On Monday, June 3, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Bill Swearingen wrote:

> perhaps it keeps GPS coords & compass readings of last highest signal and 
> "fakes" the radar map with that historical data.  
>  
>  
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Robin Wood <[email protected] 
> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > On 2 June 2013 20:52, BillV-Lists <[email protected] 
> > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > > Agreed. I don't believe the location of the points on the graph are
> > > representative of direction compared to the phone. I believe it is based 
> > > on
> > > signal strength only and those points just move closer to the center. It's
> > > been a while since I've used this though and don't currently have it
> > > available to test.
> >  
> > That is exactly what I thought but my friend couldn't be convinced.
> > I'll just have to live with them being in the dark about radio.
> >  
> > Robin
> >  
> > > On 6/2/2013 12:22 PM, Larry Pesce wrote:
> > >
> > > It can't.  The display only looks good and cannot actually provide
> > > direction.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 2, 2013, at 8:13 AM, Robin Wood <[email protected] 
> > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On Jun 2, 2013 11:41 AM, "BillV-Lists" <[email protected] 
> > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I don't believe this was answered. I believe you're thinking of WiFiFoFum
> > >> and it can only be installed on jailbroken devices. Here is a screenshot:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://images.macworld.com/images/reviews/graphics/139268-wififofum_original.jpg
> > >
> > > Ye that looks like it.
> > >
> > > How can it do that from a single device?
> > >
> > > Robin
> > >
> > >> Bill
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 5/31/2013 3:51 AM, Robin Wood wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Slightly off topic but something I'm curious about, there is an iPhone
> > >>> app I saw that shows APs on a radar type screen to indicate what 
> > >>> direction
> > >>> each is away from you. I know you can't do this accurately with a single
> > >>> radio but the person showing me swore that it was usually spot on.
> > >>>
> > >>> Anyone any idea how they would be doing it?
> > >>>
> > >>> Robin
> > >>>
> > >>> On May 31, 2013 3:28 AM, "Mike Perez" <[email protected] 
> > >>> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'm thinking of getting a Samsung Galaxy S4, Android version that 
> > >>>> Google
> > >>>> recently announced.  Do these apps require root or just Vanilla 
> > >>>> Android?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my Windows Phone
> > >>>> ________________________________
> > >>>> From: Bill Swearingen
> > >>>> Sent: 5/30/2013 22:18
> > >>>> To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List
> > >>>> Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] Wireless assessment app
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I agree w/Larry -- Check out WiFi Analyzer for Android.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Larry Pesce <[email protected] 
> > >>>> (mailto:[email protected])>
> > >>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Brian,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> We talk about this quite a bit in SANS SEC617.  I hate to say it, but 
> > >>>>> I
> > >>>>> think you are correct on the iPhone side, mostly due to the fact that
> > >>>>> the wireless drivers are "less than open". To my knowledge, monitor
> > >>>>> mode
> > >>>>> support does not exist on non-jailbroken iDevices (I'm not sure about
> > >>>>> jailbroken ones).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> My solution?  Go Android.  I picked up a Nexus 7 and use the following
> > >>>>> tools frequently:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Kisbee - Zigbee sniffer (for use with 3rd party hardware)
> > >>>>> Pcap Capture - Monitor mode WiFi capture with a specific ALFA wireless
> > >>>>> card and OTG cable
> > >>>>> WiFiFoFum - Rogue AP locator
> > >>>>> WiFi Analyzer - Kismet-like wireless discovery
> > >>>>> WiGLE WiFi Wardriving - Kismet-like wireless discovery
> > >>>>> Cloudshark - Cloud based wireshark for analyzing pcaps
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hope that helps.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> - L
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 5/30/13 9:58 AM, Brian Wilhide wrote:
> > >>>>> > I am curious if anyone has found any good apps for mobile devices 
> > >>>>> > for
> > >>>>> > wifi testing?  I have been told that all of the iPhone apps don't
> > >>>>> > detect
> > >>>>> > networks with hidden SSIDs; has anyone found any contrary evidence? 
> > >>>>> > I
> > >>>>> > am
> > >>>>> > looking for a simple solution, not a dedicated device.
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > Have a great day,
> > >>>>> >
> > >>>>> > Brian
> > >>>>> >
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