What Brian and I were saying is that we need a mechanism to deal with
changes to spectrum availability and that push is only one option. I like
the description Brian gave:
"At this stage, we should say that we have a requirement to change
availability of spectrum on a short notice"



On FriJan/20/12 Fri Jan 20, 12:59 PM, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>I believe we have general consensus to include a requirement for
>unsolicited Push notifications/messages to be sent by the white space
>device to the master device.
>Proposal for requirement in I-D:
>
>Requirement: A white space database should be able to send unsolicited
>messages to a master device which has registered with it. The protocol
>between the WS database and master device MUST allow for push
>notifications to be sent from the database to the master device.
>
>-Raj
> 
>
>On 1/20/12 11:50 AM, "ext [email protected]"
><[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Hi Andy,
>>
>>I agree with you the risk of non-delivery of pushed messages is small.
>>
>>The kill switch is one method in the protocol to clear secondary users
>>from specific channels at specific locations. Since Ofcom has included it
>>in their Implementing Geolocation document I believe this is sufficient
>>justification to include this feature in PAWS.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Scott
>>
>>On 1/19/12 6:33 PM, "ext [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>Scott
>>>
>>>Regarding time constraints for message delivery from the database, Ofcom
>>>has moved away from specifying a time limit for a database to respond to
>>>a request, on the basis that if it is a first request then the master
>>>will not transmit if it fails to receive a response, and if it is a
>>>'revalidation' request and the master receives no response, the master
>>>will cease transmitting anyway when the time validity timer expires. I
>>>think in principle we need not specify a time limit for delivery of
>>>pushed information; if received, the master must act on it, but if not
>>>received, it will continue to transmit until its validity timer expires.
>>>I think that is reasonable. In practice the risk of non-delivery is
>>>tiny,
>>>as is the likelihood of invoking the kill switch in the first place as a
>>>method of solving interference issues (even in an emergency).
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Andy
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>[email protected]
>>>Sent: 19 January 2012 19:42
>>>To: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [paws] next steps for the wg
>>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>I believe it is relevant to look at Ofcom's Implementing Geolocation
>>>Summary of consultation responses and next steps. Paragraph 3.42 states:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ofcom retains control over the performance of the algorithms used in
>>>>the databases and will update them if required to manage interference.
>>>>A kill switch is a useful reactive tool and we believe that it should
>>>>form a core part of the protocol which describes the information
>>>>exchange between WSDs and the database.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Following the notion that a kill switch should form a core part of the
>>>protocol, this could be included in a very basic use case like "Hotspot:
>>>urban internet connectivity service". I can volunteer to make this
>>>addition in the use case.
>>>
>>>Regarding the requirement we could say the database must be able to
>>>deliver updated channel information to any registered master device. We
>>>have not specified elsewhere any time constraints on message delivery, I
>>>wonder if this is needed in this case either.
>>>
>>>Kind Regards,
>>>Scott
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>>>ext Joel M. Halpern
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 11:12 AM
>>>To: Rosen, Brian
>>>Cc: [email protected]
>>>Subject: Re: [paws] next steps for the wg
>>>
>>>Thanks Brian.  That works much better for me.
>>>Yours,
>>>Joel
>>>
>>>On 1/19/2012 9:08 AM, Rosen, Brian wrote:
>>>> At this stage, we should say that we have a requirement to change
>>>>availability of spectrum on a short notice, we need a use case that
>>>>would motivate some decision on what "short" means, and we should not
>>>>worry about which mechanism we should choose to achieve it.
>>>>
>>>> Push, fast poll, and notice broadcast (i.e. a single bit sent to all
>>>>clients telling them to "phone home" soon) are all reasonable
>>>>mechanisms
>>>>to meet the requirements.
>>>>
>>>> Brian
>>>>
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