Scott, Raj, all

I don't see the need for steps 8, 9 and 11, where slaves query the master for 
frequencies. In this use case, all slaves only talk to masters, not to each 
other. By definition they must be using a WS channel allocated by the WSDB to 
the master WSD - they are part of the master network and using its frequencies. 
The master advertises its presence in some way on the WS (we don't need to know 
how or at what layer, but could be SSIDs, beacons, required timing information 
etc). There must be some sort of advertisement otherwise slaves can never 
connect. If the master drops use of a frequency that a slave was using, then, 
like in cellular mobile or Wi-Fi, the slave drops off the network shortly after 
failing to hear the master, and will have to rejoin using another frequency 
being transmitted by the master, if any. The slave never needs to ask for 
frequencies.

Have I missed something, or are we making the protocol unnecessarily 
complicated?

Andy


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Subject: [paws] UC&R I-D: section 4.3 (Hotspot: urban internet connectivity 
service)

Hello All,

As editors of the problem statement, use cases & requirements draft we are 
attempting to prepare a completed draft which could be ready for working group 
last call before IETF83. In the coming days we will post the sections of the 
draft to the mailing list. Our request is that you review these sections and 
reply to the email with any comments.

Below is the text for section on the Hotspot use case (new section numbering is 
NOT shown, all use cases will be moved to section 4.2 Use cases in the next 
version). This text has been marked up from version-02 as uploaded January 26, 
2012 as follows:
* now includes steps to change the availability of spectrum on short notice
* clarification that in some cases a master may initialize over a white space 
channel
* clarification that registration includes device location
* clarification on the possible parameters in the channel request
* clarification on the possible parameters in the channel response

Our goal is that any discussion on this text will conclude by February 10.
To be clear, approval of the document will go through the normal process of 
last calls etc.. We are simply asking for your assistance in preparing a 
complete & accurate document that could progress the work. So please review the 
text and send your comments either directly to the editor or to the mailing 
list.

Kind Regards,
Raj & Scott







4.3.  Hotspot: urban internet connectivity service

   In this use case internet connectivity service is provided in a
   "hotspot" to local users.  Typical deployment scenarios include urban
   areas where internet connectivity is provided to local businesses and
   residents, and campus environments where internet connectivity is
   provided to local buildings and relatively small outdoor areas.  This
   deployment scenario is typically characterized by multiple masters
   (APs or hotspots) in close proximity, with low antenna height, cells
   with relatively small radius (a few kilometers or less), and limited
   numbers of available radio channels.  Many of the masters/APs are
   assumed to be individually deployed and operated, i.e. there is no
   coordination between many of the masters/APs.  The masters/APs in
   this scenario use a TDD radio technology and transmit at or below a
   relatively low transmit power threshold.  Each master/AP has a
   connection to the internet and provides internet connectivity to
   multiple master and or slave devices.

   The figure below shows an example deployment of this scenario.



    --------
    |Device|\                 \|/                            ----------
    |  1   | (TDD AirIF)       |                             |Database|
    --------           \       |                     .---.   /---------
       o                \    |-|---------|          (     ) /
       o                     |  Master   |         /       \
       o                 /   |           |========( Internet )
       o                /    |-----------|         \        /
    -------- (TDD AirIF)                            (      )
    |Device| /                                       (----)
    |  n   |
    --------


          Figure 3: Hotspot service using TV white space spectrum

   Once a master/AP has been correctly installed and configured, a
   simplified power up and operation scenario utilizing TV White Space
   to provide Internet connectivity service <Insert>to slave devices, including 
the ability to clear WSDs from select channels, is described.
This scenario </Insert>consists of the following steps:

   1.  The master/AP powers up; however its WS radio and all other WS
       capable devices will power up in idle/listen only mode (no active
       transmissions on the WS frequency band). <Insert>A local regulator may 
identify exception cases where a Master may initialize over white space (e.g. 
the FCC allows a Master to initialize over TV white space in certain 
conditions)."</Insert>

   2.  The master/AP has Internet connectivity <Insert>, determines its 
location (either from location determination capability or from saved value 
that was set during installation), </Insert> and establishes a connection to a 
trusted white space database (see Section 4.1 <Ed.
Note>reference is to database discovery, will be updated in next
version</Ed. Note>).

   3.  The master/AP registers with the trusted database according to
       regulatory domain requirements (see Section 4.2 <Ed. Note>reference is 
to registration, will be updated in next version</Ed. Note>).

   4.  Following the <Insert>successful</Insert> registration process, the 
master/AP will send a
       query to the trusted database requesting a list of available WS
       channels based upon its geolocation. <Insert>The complete set of 
parameters to be provided from the Master to the database is specified by the 
local regulator. Parameters may include WSD location, accuracy of of that 
location, device antenna height, device identifier of a slave device requesting 
channel information.</Insert>

   5.  If the master/AP has met all regulatory domain requirements (e.g.
       been previously authenticated, etc), the database responds with a
       list of available white space channels that the master may use,
       and optionally a duration of time for their use<Insert>, associated 
maximum power levels or a notification of any additional requirement for 
sensing</Insert>.

   6.  Once the master/AP has met all regulatory domain requirements
       (e.g. authenticated the WS channel list response message from the
       database, etc), the AP selects an available WS channel(s) from
       the list.

   7.  The slave or user device scans the TV bands to locate a master/AP
       transmission, and associates with the AP. <Ed. Note>insert new step</Ed. 
Note>

   8.  The slave/user device
       queries the master for a channel list, providing to the master
       the slaves' Device ID and <Insert>optionally its</Insert> geolocation.

   9.  Once the master/AP has met all regulatory domain requirements
       (e.g. validating the Device ID with the trusted database, etc)
       the master provides the list of channels locally available to the
       slave/user device.  If the channel that the user terminal is
       currently using is not included in the list of locally available
       channels, the slave/user device ceases all operation on its
       current channel.  The slave/user device may scan for another AP
       transmission on a different channel.

<Insert>
  10.  The master/AP must periodically repeat the process to request a channel 
list from the database, steps 4 through 6 above. The frequency to repeat the 
process is determined by the local regulator. If the response from the database 
indicates a channel being used by the master/AP is not available, the master/AP 
must stop transmitting on that channel immediately.In addition or optionally, 
the database may send a message to the master/AP to rescind the availability of 
one or more channels. The master/AP must stop transmitting on that channel 
immediately.

  11.  The slave or user device must periodically repeat the process to request 
a channel list from the master/AP, steps 8 and 9 above. The frequency to repeat 
the process is determined by the local regulator. If the response from the 
master/AP indicates that a channel being used by the slave or user device is 
not available, the slave or user device must stop transmitting on that channel 
immediately. In addition or optionally, the database may send a message to the 
master/AP to rescind the availability of one or more channels. The master/AP 
must then notify the slave or user device of the rescinded channels. The slave 
or user device must stop transmitting on that channel immediately.
</Insert>

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