Scott

Good for me. A consequential revision would be consistent in the (old) 4.1.1 on 
database discovery. At step 3 it says "If at least one response is received, 
the master device evaluates the response(s) to determine if a trusted database 
can be identified where the master device is able to register and receive 
service from the database." I suggest the intent is the same and the 
application consistent across regulatory domains if "register and receive 
service" is changed to "receive service".

Regards

Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 21 February 2012 16:46
To: Sago,AJ,Andy,COD R; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [paws] UC&R I-D: section 4.1 (TVWS database discovery, device 
registration with trusted database)

Hi Andy, All,

Following up on your keen observation about registration as a pre-requisite. It 
may not be required in all regulatory domains, and also not for all device 
types. If there are no objections, I will make the following correction:

Registration <delete>is</delete><insert>may be</insert> preliminary to creating 
a radio network using white space; <insert>in some regulatory domains, for some 
device types,</insert> it is a prerequisite to the use cases below.  The radio 
network is created by a master device.


Kind Regards,
Scott

On 2/2/12 1:02 PM, "ext [email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Scott
>
>The Device Registration use case at 4.1.2 is shown as a pre-requisite, 
>but may not be required in all regulatory domains. I take your point 
>though that at present we only have firm requirements from the FCC.
>
>I guess that the left most device in the diagram in 4.1.2 should be 
>labelled slave, not master.
>
>There is a conflict between the use case (elsewhere) that allows for WS 
>backhaul, and step 1 of database discovery in 4.1.1. It is possible for 
>a master to send a service request to the database over the WS, if it 
>does so as a slave to another master on that master's allowed 
>frequencies. We could correct step 1 to reflect this as follows:
>
>1.  The master device is connected to the internet by any means other 
>than using the <Delete>TV</Delete> white space radio. <Insert>An 
>exception is where the master device also has slave capabilities and is 
>already connected to the internet as a slave of the white space radio 
>network of another master.</Insert>
>
>Regards
>
>Andy
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
>[email protected]
>Sent: 02 February 2012 16:22
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [paws] UC&R I-D: section 4.1 (TVWS database discovery, device 
>registration with trusted database)
>
>Hello All,
>
>As editors of the problem statement, use cases & requirements draft we 
>are attempting to prepare a completed draft which could be ready for 
>working group last call before IETF83. In the coming days we will post 
>the sections of the draft to the mailing list. Our request is that you 
>review these sections and reply to the email with any comments.
>
>Below is the text for sections on protocol services (new section 
>numbering). This text has been marked up from version-02 as uploaded 
>January 26, 2012 to include the previous comments on the mail reflector 
>about use cases vs. protocol services, plus a few suggestions from the 
>editor (removing 'TV' since PAWS applies to all white space, correcting 
>for the fact that we only know at this time the FCC's specific 
>requirements for registration).
>
>Our goal is that any discussion on this text will conclude by February 9.
>To be clear, approval of the document will go through the normal 
>process of last calls etc.. We are simply asking for your assistance in 
>preparing a complete & accurate document that could progress the work. 
>So please review the text and send your comments either directly to the 
>editor or to the mailing list.
>
>Kind Regards,
>Raj & Scott
>
>
>
><Insert>
>
>4.1 Protocol Services
>
>A complete protocol solution must provide all services that are 
>essential to enable the white space paradigm. Before a white space 
>device can request service from a white space database, such as a query 
>for a list of available channels, the white space device must first 
>locate or "discover" a suitable database. Additionally, some regulatory 
>authorities require the white space device to register with the 
>database as a first step. This section describes the services required from 
>the protocol.
></Insert>
>
>4.1.1.  <Delete>TVWS</Delete><Insert>White space</Insert> database 
>discovery
>
><Delete>This use case</Delete><Insert>White space database 
>discovery</Insert> is preliminary to creating a radio network using 
><Delete>TV</Delete>
>   white space; it is a prerequisite to 
><Delete>other</Delete><Insert>the</Insert> use cases 
><Insert>below</Insert>.  The radio
>   network is created by a master device.  Before the master device can
>   transmit in <Delete>TV</Delete> white space spectrum, it must 
>contact a trusted
>   database where the device can learn if any channels are available for
>   it to use.  The master device will need to discover a trusted
>   database in the relvant regulatory domain, using the following steps:
>
>   1.  The master device is connected to the internet by any means other
>       than using the <Delete>TV</Delete> white space radio.
>
>   2.  The master device constructs and sends a service request over the
>       Internet to discover availability of trusted databases in the
>       local <Insert>regulatory</Insert> domain and waits for responses.
>
>   3.  If no acceptable response is received within a pre-configured
>       time limit, the master device concludes that no trusted database
>       is available.  If at least one response is received, the master
>       device evaluates the response(s) to determine if a trusted
>       database can be identified where the master device is able to
>       register and receive service from the database.
>
>   Optionally the radio device is pre-programmed with the internet
>   address of at least one trusted database.  The device can establish
>   contact with a trusted database using one of the pre-programmed
>   internet addresses and establish a <Delete>TV</Delete> white space 
>network (as
>   described in one of the following use cases).
>
>   Optionally the initial query will be made to a listing approved by
>   the national regulator for the domain of operation (e.g. a website
>   either hosted by or under control of the national regulator) which
>   maintains a list of <Delete>TV</Delete>WS databases and their 
>internet addresses.  The
>   query results in the list of databases and their internet addresses
>   being sent to the master, which then evaluates the repsonse to
>   determine if a trusted database can be identified where the master
>   device is able to register and receive service from the database.
>
>
>4.1.2.  Device registration with trusted Database
>
>   <Delete>This use case</Delete><Insert>Registration</Insert> is 
>preliminary to creating a radio network using <Delete>TV</Delete>
>   white space; it is a prerequisite to 
><Delete>other</Delete><Insert>the</Insert> use cases 
><Insert>below</Insert>.  The radio
>   network is created by a master device.  Before the master device can
>   transmit in <Delete>TV</Delete> white space spectrum, it must 
>contact a trusted
>   database where the device can learn if any channels are available for
>   it to use.  Before the database will provide information on available
>   <Delete>TV</Delete><Insert>radio</Insert> channels, the master 
>device must register with the trusted
>   database.  Specific requirements for registration come from
>   individual regulatory domains and may be different.
>
>   The figure below shows an example deployment of this scenario.
>
>
>
>                              \|/                            ----------
>                               |                             |Database|
>                               |                     .---.   /---------
>                             |-|---------|          (     ) /
>     \|/                     |  Master   |         /       \
>      |                   /  |           |========( Internet )
>      |                  /   |-----------|         \        /
>    +-|----+   (TDD AirIF)                          (      )
>    |Master|  /                                      (----)
>    |      | /
>    +------+
>
>     Figure 2: Example illustration of registration requirement in 
><Delete>TV</Delete>
>                           white space use-case
>
>   A simplified operational scenario showing registration consists of
>   the following steps:
>
>   1.  The master device must register with 
><Delete>the</Delete><Insert>its</Insert> most current and up-to-
>       date information.  Typically the master device will register
>       prior to operating in <Delete>TV</Delete> white space for the 
>first time after
>       power up, after changing location by a predetermined distance,
>       and after regular time intervals.
>
>   2.  The master device shall provide to the database during
>       registration <Insert>all information required according to local 
>regulatory requirements. This information may include, but is not 
>limited to, </Insert><Delete>a minimum of</Delete> the Device ID, 
>serial number assigned by the manufacturer <Delete>and</Delete> the 
>device's location<Insert>, device antenna height above ground, name of 
>the individual or business that owns the device, name of a contact 
>person responsible for the device's operation, address for the
>       contact person, email address for the contact person and phone 
>number of the contact person.</Insert>
>
><Delete>
>   3.  Depending upon regulatory domain requirements, the device may
>       also provide device antenna height above ground, name of the
>       individual or business that owns the device, name of a contact
>       person responsible for the device's operation, address for the
>       contact person, email address for the contact person and phone
>       number of the contact person to the database during registration.
></Delete>
>
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