I think, for consistency, the SPECTRUM_USE_NOTIFY should also have a "slave
location".

In other words:
 - Whether or not the slave has geo-location capability, "location"
continues to be the Master device location
 - For Slaves that have geo-location capability, the "slave location" would
be included

Does that make sense?

-vince


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Don Joslyn <[email protected]>wrote:

> Thanks Vince,****
>
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>
> In addition, It’s my current understanding that Ofcom requires slave
> devices to report “Channel Usage”. In PAWS it would be accomplished via
> master device sending a SPECTRUM_USE_NOTIFY on behalf of the slave device.
> We might need to add slave device location to that message, or indicate
> that the location parameter contains the slave device’s location whenever
> etsiEnDeviceCategory is equal to “slave”. Does that make sense?****
>
> Don****
>
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>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf
> Of *Vincent Chen
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 17, 2013 1:26 PM
> *To:* Benjamin A. Rolfe
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [paws] Support for including Slave Device location****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks Don,****
>
> ** **
>
> The in-progress draft has already changed the definition of "Slave" to
> match that in the use-case RFC, which does not reference geo-location
> capability.****
>
> ** **
>
> Adding the optional slave location to the AVAIL_SPECTRUM_REQ seems to make
> sense.****
>
> ** **
>
> Ben. There is already support in PAWS to include both the Slave and
> Master's device descriptors.****
>
> ** **
>
> -vince****
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>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Benjamin A. Rolfe <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> There is a similar requirement, though not as explicitly stated, in the
> FCC use case.  A device not directly connected to the database works
> through a connected device. For the connected ("master" in OfCom terms) to
> provide the data  to another, it must verify that the other device is
> authorized.  This can be done by having the connected device make a request
> using the device identification information of the "slave".   I realize
> that I had *assumed* the protocol as drafted  supported  this, i.e. the
> device making the request  could fill  in the ID information of another
> device in the request.  IF this is not true, then the protocol does not
> support a very likely use case in the US.
>
> FWIW.
> Ben****
>
>
>
> ****
>
> On 10/17/2013 8:34 AM, Don Joslyn wrote:****
>
> After reviewing several Ofcom TVWS operational requirements documents, it
> is my current understanding that Ofcom operation in TVWS includes a use
> case where the slave device’s location may be included in the available
> spectrum request sent via the master device to the database. It appears
> that the current PAWS protocol specification (version 6) does not support
> inclusion of the slave device’s location as a parameter in requests, and
> furthermore the PAWS specification assumes by slave definition that slave
> devices are without geo-location capability.****
>
>  ****
>
> To support Ofcom’s use case that includes slave device location, I would
> like to suggest that we consider adding an optional parameter for “Slave
> Device Location”, and update the slave definition to support slave devices
> that include geo-location capability. The new “Slave Device Location”
> parameter could be added directly to the AVAIL_SPECTRUM_REQ message format,
> or added via another ETSI-specific parameter.****
>
>  ****
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> Thank you,****
>
> Don****
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