On 21 Aug 2014, at 15:54, Pete Resnick <[email protected]> wrote:

> PAWS participants:
> 
> Somehow an IPR disclosure was filed on the PAWS protocol document for which 
> we did not see an announcement:
> 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2340/
> 
> As far as I can tell from the title (given that the referenced IP is an 
> as-yet-unpublished patent), this applies to the database discovery portion of 
> the protocol. Since we have removed much of that discussion, we expect mostly 
> pre-configuration, and we have yet to (and may never) complete the actual 
> database discovery work, I think this may have no effect on folks 
> implementing the protocol. But I do need to confirm that the WG is aware of 
> this and still thinks it's OK to move forward with the protocol document.
> 
> If there are any objections to moving forward, I need to hear that 
> immediately.
> 
> However, I would like to hear an overt, "Yes, understood, and it's fine to 
> move forward" from some folks who might be implementing the protocol.

I’m unable to find the text of the Nokia application, so it’s difficult to 
assess.

I note that they’ve quoted an application date of 29 April 2013, I’d be amazed 
if there isn’t some prior work relating to database discovery (e.g. the OFCOM 
spec, or ETSI EN 301 598) although that does depend on exactly what mechanism 
it is they’re claiming.

Given the WG's de-emphasis on DB discovery I see no reason to change course 
based on this.

Ray



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