Hi Comrades Can you remove my name from your fancy group as I do not take insults from political mosquitoes.
Kind Regards Cunningham Ngcukana -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of NdiKandaFhi Sent: 10 June 2009 08:57 AM To: Pan Africanist Youth Congress Subject: [PAYCO] Re: Matome Reaction to Cunnigham Comrade Cunningham, You can find a copy of IOTA as mentioned by Matome Mashao on the link below: http://mayihlome.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/iota.pdf Regards, Ndikandafhi On Jun 9, 8:29 pm, [email protected] wrote: > My Comrade Cunningham, > > You raise pertinent issues in the document titled threats and > opportunities, issues that have indeed been raised now and before. I must > state upfront that I share in the wish to protect the PAC from anarchists, > and people that have no appreciation of how the PAC could be steered > forward. > > Reading your document, I could not however discern what differentiates > your wish and perhaps fear from those that other people have held before. > I do not mean to be critical of your views, but I am inclined to state as > well that what you call current developments, have always been current and > therefore historical. There is nothing novel about this observation. > > I say this well aware that you have spent this much time and energy > putting the document together because of your love for the party, hence I > engage you with caution and respect in this regard. > > I have also not picked any substantive point you make in the document, > save warning us against anarchists, a warning we ourselves have echoed now > and before. A more elaborate identification of the specific opportunities > and threats would have been helpful. Indeed I struggled, too, to > understand what the conclusive call of the article is. So, my comments are > made in the context of your document, which I respectfully consider thin > on substance. And I am cognizant that given an opportunity you could > explain yourself in more detail, it is only that given the subject of your > document I had to comment. > > Consequently I am left not knowing what exactly you intend achieving with > the letter and spirit of the document. I must share my views based on my > reading and interpretation of the document. > > Advising us to stand guard against anarchists is all good and well, but > characterizing who these anarchists are would be more helpful. Your > characterization of reactionaries is quite elusive. Who decides that one > is an anarchist ? Who exactly is an anarchist, does this include people > that may have supported the anarchist pre-anarchy, yourself ? Some people > may very well be thinking that you are anarchic yourself by making a call > against anarchy without going into substance, I don't think you are as I > have stayed away from characterizing people that way. Simply put, your > definition of anarchy may be the direct opposite of what another comrade > think. We should draw a bold clear line between our opinions and facts. > > What I am more interested in from you and all of us, what is the solution > to move the party forward, and what we ourselves exactly stand for. I will > start with the latter. By advising us against the anarchists, you > invariably suggest that you are not one yourself. Ok, granted, but what > exactly do you stand for. It does not help either that we have to probe > you on this one. My short life in the PAC, not bearing the great privilege > that some of you have, of having spent decades in the party, is that we > have committed a colossal mistake in the past of allowing people to warn > us against standing leaders, punting for themselves only on the basis that > they are better than the incumbent. We must now transcend this, and ask > what you stand for. This is at a political and ideological level. It is a > challenge that all must engage with. > I am not going to ask you, when did you realize this anarchy, after the > elections. It may be quite opportunistic to replace intellectual > assessment with electoral assessment i.e. relying solely on the outcome of > the elections to realize there is something wrong with the party. So that > you do not misread me at all. I have raised my concerns with the President > of the party on his leadership style, political work, neglect of unity, > ideological positioning long before the elections. I believe in a new > generation of leadership, a point known by most of my comrades. So, I > endorse leadership change, what I am not sure of is the timing. > We have to demonstrate maturity and experience, especially because we have > been this route before, when some of the enlightened members like yourself > were keeping a safe distance from the party. There is work that still need > to be done amongst party members. We have developed a draft program of > action for the PAC called IOTA. I suggest that you familiarize yourself > with the document and input thereto. This document has been circulated to > all party structures and comments received would be used to table it at > the next conference of the party. This is what the party requires, a > program and prospective leaders whose ideological position is declared. > To avoid the very problem of divisions and instability, we need a > transitional team of leadership that would drive the party for a period of > two years or so. The detail of this is for all of us to define. > Having said all of the above, I must say that I found your read quite > interesting indeed. I also look forward to further engagement and learning > from you. > > Kind Regards > > Matome Mashao > > > > > > > Hi Comrades > > > This is a polemic on the current state of the PAC. > > The outcome of the elections are not lying. > > > Kind Regards > > > Cunniongham Ngcukana > > > NOTICE - This message contains privileged and confidential information > > intended only for the use of the addressee named above. > > Any review, retransmission, dissemination, copying, disclosure or other > > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by > > person or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by > > return email and delete this message. 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