I have made my point and still stand by it.payco is nothing than a tool in the hands who put every efforts to destroy pac.there is no constructive exchange of views.i am the head of party building in the party and it is my duty to defend the party from any attacks by political opportunists like yourselves.the language your using has never been used before in the pac. Pac members are disciplined members and respect the disciplinary code of the party.pac youth leage will launged in September and payco reactionaries can stay away.but this programme have to stop.pac is taking a shape.by match next year all party structures will be operational and effective.those who deployed should recall you for other briefing.you are daily approaching the dustbin of history.agents programme is reactionary in both character and content and unsustainable.your disrespect of the party and its leadership is a reflection of how badly you were brought up and what kind of a family ur come from.you simply display shere arrogance.
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 28 August 2009 12:38 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [Fwd: [PAYCO] Re: dogmatism] ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: [PAYCO] Re: dogmatism] From: [email protected] Date: Fri, August 28, 2009 11:44 To: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr Narius Moloto, You never cease to disappoint me with your poor political understanding and childish behaviour. Your response on PAYCO's stance was poorly presented and lacked content. You are an embarassment to the party of intellectual giants and principled leaders. I did not want to entertain your gubbage but for the sake of young and new comrades who might be misdirected by your ill-concieved views let me address the following: 1.PAYCO no longer PAC structure I think you still need to be initiated on the constitution of the PAC,its culture and traditions. You sound like a man who have never seen or consulted PAC constitution and its founding documents. PAC component structures are constitutionally created and governed. The relations between PAC and its structure are regulated by constitution and conventional rules. No man including the President of the party can rename the structure or dissolve it just like that. PAYCO has to be consulted, engaged and convinced of any decision that affect it,in line with democratic centralism(which is the new concept to you). PAYCO has to agree and be part of the implementation of such a decision,if that is not the case then such a decision is in conflict with the Disciplinary Code and promotes factionalism and disunity. Since that detailed process was not followed to the letter,the decision to dissolve PAYCO and establish the so-called PAC youth leageu is null and void. To add salt on the wound be informed that the Cape Town Court Decision to reject the smuggled constitution and re-instating the original Constitution accordingly confirmed PAYCO as the only legitimate PAC youth component. Your actions and attacks on PAYCO are tantamount to contempt of court,you should know the consequences,if you don't get legal advice. 2.PAYCO captured by the enermy I am sure if you don't know what you are talking about. As far as I am concerned your enermies is PAC,Its Constitution,its Members,its Structues,its founding members and its supporters. It is you and your president who wanted to rename oue party New PAC,aping the New Labour Party in England(remember the Blomfontein Component Structures Summit), it is you and your President who smuggled the new anti-PAC constitution(thanks to courts it has been declared null and void),its you and your president who have stripped PAC die-hards and veterans party membership and embarrassed them over the media, its you and your president who undermine branches,suspend duly elected leaders and install stooges,its you guys who remove principled councillors and replace them with spineless stooge,it is you and your president who disband structures who refuse to serve you,(PAYCO and APLAMVA are a case in point). You are the real enermies of the PAC and we would fight you to the last bitter-end and we would emerge victorious as history is on our side. 3.Forum of reactionaries and enermy agents Can you define a reactionary and enermy agents? 4.Politically and Ideologically bankrupt Who are you trying to bluff,us or yourself? We have been offering your free political and ideological lessons over the past months,soon we would start charging you as you waste too much of our time and you are really slow learners. Non of you have engaged us on a political or ideological debate. this debate only takes place between PAYCO members. It would be asking too much to draw you on the ideological debates when you are still struggling on the basics. You just need a creche course on general politics.,noting that you are a slow learner you can only start debating on general political issues in the next 5 years. 5.Structure without a programme Do you know what is a programme? PAYCO NEC adopted a Programme of Action when it met in its first plenary meeting and workshop,and have followed it to the latter,hence our programmes are sustainable. Among other things we included was to Rebuild and reposition PAC. 6.Anti PAC emails Programme All our emails and our staments are pro-PAC. We reject individuals who have hijacked PAC,i.e, Mphahlele,Skhwatsha,Maivha,Moloto and others. Yours for a classless society Kwame Ndebele PAYCO Secretary General ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [PAYCO] Re: dogmatism From: "Narius Moloto" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, August 27, 2009 09:01 To: [email protected] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- payco is no longer the structure of the pac.it has been captured by the enemy and since have been running a rigorious antipac campaign.it has become a forum of reactionaries and ennemy agents whos main aim is to undermine the pac and its leadership.this individuals are both politically and ideologically bankrupt.they dont operates as a structures with a programme other than a destructive anti pac email programmes. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jabu Makhanya Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [PAYCO] dogmatism Tumi and company It is the standard principle that before you can associate yourself with the PAC, YOU MUST first read and understand the 'basic document'.The 1959 PAC's Basic Document is the bible of the PAC worshipers. After reading this document, any member with normal reasoning will never deliberately sabotage the programme of the PAC. Someone who will attempt to derail the PAC programme after understanding the Basic Document, is doing so under the programme of the imperialist agenda. It is no secret that today Letlapa has become a lackey of Americans, It's hard luck for you if you're still walking in the dark. My advice to you is that you must leave revolutionaries to do their work in salvaging the PAC. Yours is to advice Letlapa who is no longer the PAC president, to establish his own party, then he will be your president. Payco has the right to invite anyone in the forthcoming congress. That displays maturity and transparency. You cannot again accuse PAYCO on the PAC's poor perfomance during recent elections. Letlapa tried by all means to destroy component structures such Payco and Pawo. He refused in may occasions to meet Payco leadership.While Letlapa was shunning Payco, we thought he had a good plan to lead the PAC into victory. It is surprising that today you accuse Payco of the PAC's poor performance. Other members also tried to advise Letlapa to adopt the correct path during his leadership but he rejected everybody who approached him with different views from his. Any party leader who seeks to undermine youth structure is simply shooting at his/her own foot. If however you want to die with Letlapa, you have a right to do so. The PAC is not a private asset. Members do have a right to criticize, praise and reject an wrong-doing provided that will contribute in party building. 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