I have made my point and still stand by it.payco is nothing than a tool in
the hands who put every efforts to destroy pac.there is no constructive
exchange of views.i am the head of party building in the party and it is my
duty to defend the party from any attacks by political opportunists like
yourselves.the language your using has never been used before in the pac.
Pac members are disciplined members and respect the disciplinary code of the
party.pac youth leage will launged in September and payco reactionaries can
stay away.but this programme have to stop.pac is taking a shape.by match
next year all party structures will be operational and effective.those who
deployed should recall you for other briefing.you are daily approaching the
dustbin of history.agents programme is reactionary in both character and
content and unsustainable.your disrespect of the party and its leadership is
a reflection of how badly you were brought up and what kind of a family ur
come from.you simply display shere arrogance.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
[email protected]
Sent: 28 August 2009 12:38 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [Fwd: [PAYCO] Re: dogmatism]

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Subject: [Fwd: [PAYCO] Re: dogmatism]
From:    [email protected]
Date:    Fri, August 28, 2009 11:44
To:
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Mr Narius Moloto,

You never cease to disappoint me with your poor political understanding
and childish behaviour. Your response on PAYCO's stance was poorly
presented and lacked content. You are an embarassment to the party of
intellectual giants and principled leaders. I did not want to entertain
your gubbage but for the sake of young and new comrades who might be
misdirected by your ill-concieved views let me address the following:

1.PAYCO no longer PAC structure
I think you still need to be initiated on the constitution of the PAC,its
culture and traditions. You sound like a man who have never seen or
consulted PAC constitution and its founding documents. PAC component
structures are constitutionally created and governed. The relations
between PAC and its structure are regulated by constitution and
conventional rules.

No man including the President of the party can rename the structure or
dissolve it just like that. PAYCO has to be consulted, engaged and
convinced of any decision that affect it,in line with democratic
centralism(which is the new concept to you). PAYCO has to agree and be
part of the implementation of such a decision,if that is not the case then
such a decision is in conflict with the Disciplinary Code and promotes
factionalism and disunity. Since that detailed process was not followed to
the letter,the decision to dissolve PAYCO and establish the so-called PAC
youth leageu is null and void.

To add salt on the wound be informed that the Cape Town Court Decision to
reject the smuggled constitution and re-instating the original
Constitution accordingly confirmed PAYCO as the only legitimate PAC youth
component. Your actions and attacks on PAYCO are tantamount to contempt of
court,you should know the consequences,if you don't get legal advice.


2.PAYCO captured by the enermy

I am sure if you don't know what you are talking about. As far as I am
concerned your enermies is PAC,Its Constitution,its Members,its
Structues,its founding members and its supporters. It is you and your
president who wanted to rename oue party New PAC,aping the New Labour
Party in England(remember the Blomfontein Component Structures Summit), it
is you and your President who smuggled the new anti-PAC
constitution(thanks to courts it has been declared null and void),its you
and your president who have stripped PAC die-hards and veterans party
membership and embarrassed them over the media, its you and your president
who undermine branches,suspend duly elected leaders and install
stooges,its you guys who remove principled councillors and replace them
with spineless stooge,it is you and your president who disband structures
who refuse to serve you,(PAYCO and APLAMVA are a case in point).

You are the real enermies of the PAC and we would fight you to the last
bitter-end and we would emerge victorious as history is on our side.


3.Forum of reactionaries and enermy agents
Can you define a reactionary and enermy agents?

4.Politically and Ideologically bankrupt

Who are you trying to bluff,us or yourself? We have been offering your
free political and ideological lessons over the past months,soon we would
start charging you as you waste too much of our time and you are really
slow learners. Non of you have engaged us on a political or ideological
debate. this debate only takes place between PAYCO members. It would be
asking too much to draw you on the ideological debates when you are still
struggling on the basics. You just need a creche course on general
politics.,noting that you are a slow learner you can only start debating
on general political issues in the next 5 years.


5.Structure without a programme

Do you know what is a programme? PAYCO NEC adopted a Programme of Action
when it met in its first plenary meeting and workshop,and have followed it
to the latter,hence our programmes are sustainable. Among other things we
included was to Rebuild and reposition PAC.


6.Anti PAC emails Programme

All our emails and our staments are pro-PAC. We reject individuals who
have hijacked PAC,i.e, Mphahlele,Skhwatsha,Maivha,Moloto and others.

Yours for a classless society

Kwame Ndebele
PAYCO Secretary General
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [PAYCO] Re: dogmatism From:    "Narius Moloto" <[email protected]>
Date:    Thu, August 27, 2009 09:01
To:      [email protected]
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payco is no longer the structure of the pac.it has been captured by the
enemy and since have been running a rigorious antipac campaign.it has
become a forum of reactionaries and ennemy agents whos main aim is to
undermine the pac and its leadership.this individuals are both politically
and ideologically bankrupt.they dont operates as a structures with a
programme other than a destructive anti pac email programmes.

  _____

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Jabu Makhanya Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 3:12 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [PAYCO] dogmatism




Tumi and company

It is the standard principle that before you can associate yourself with
the PAC, YOU MUST  first read and understand the  'basic document'.The
1959 PAC's Basic Document is the bible of the PAC worshipers.  After
reading this document, any member with normal reasoning will never  
deliberately sabotage the programme of the PAC. Someone who will attempt
to derail the PAC programme after understanding the Basic Document, is
doing so under the programme of the imperialist agenda. It is no secret
that today Letlapa has become a lackey of Americans, It's hard luck for
you if you're still walking in the dark.

My advice to you is that you must leave revolutionaries to do their work
in salvaging the PAC. Yours is to advice Letlapa who is no longer the PAC
president, to establish his own party, then he will be your president.
Payco has the right to invite anyone  in the forthcoming congress. That
displays maturity and transparency. You cannot again accuse PAYCO on the
PAC's poor perfomance during recent elections. Letlapa tried by all means
to destroy component structures such Payco and Pawo. He refused in may
occasions to meet Payco leadership.While Letlapa was shunning Payco, we
thought he had a good plan to lead the PAC into victory. It is surprising
that today you accuse Payco of the PAC's poor performance.

Other members also tried to advise Letlapa to adopt the correct path
during his leadership but he rejected everybody who approached him with
different views from his. Any party leader who  seeks to undermine youth
structure is simply shooting at his/her own foot. If however you want to
die with Letlapa, you have a right to do so. The PAC is not a private
asset. Members do have a right to criticize, praise and reject an
wrong-doing provided that will contribute in party building.


Jabu










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