>
Izwe Lethu!

MoAfrika Gcingca you should learn to debate from the point of information
to avoid embarrasment. Your APLAMVA is an illegitimate, the legitimate and
accepted APLAMVA is the one led by General Fihla and Dudu Phama. For your
information the only structure that can call a legitimate APLAMVA Congress
that can elect leadership is the one in office led by General Fihla. It is
common knowledge that no structure in the PAC can convene APLAMVA Congress
on behalf of APLAMVA. APLAMVA NEC or National Leadership is the only
structure tasked with that responsibility. It's even worse in the moment
as none of those who convened that Bloemfontein circus serve in the
APLAMVA leadership or that of the party(remember Cape High Court
Judgement). Probably you have a problem with definations and have no
access to dictionaries,your fly-by-night APLAMVA is running parallel to
the
legitimate APLAMVA led by General Fihla and Dudu. Before your mini APLAMVA
existed there was an APLAMVA that existed that was even recognised by your
former leader Letlapa Mphahlele,who has met with General Fihla and his
executive on numerous occasions. Your actions are in contravention of the
party's Disciplinary Code,which condemns factional tendencies and
divisions.

You should begin to unpack your pseudo Pan Africanism,'cause what you are
doing is foreign in the Pan Africanist front. I am sure you are mistaking
Pan Africanism to factionalism, tribalism,liberalism and federalism. Your
brand of Pan Africanism is destroying the legacy of Sobukwe and Mothopeng
you unfortunately quote out of context. You should be ashamed for
misquoting these great fighters of our struggle.

You are blowing hot air,you are really not bringing forth anything
worthwhile to engage on. Stop your factional tendencies and study more
about Pan Africanism to save yourself from embarrasment.

Umhlaba.

Yours for a classless society

Kwame
PAYCO Secretary General


>
>
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of
> Ntandazo Gcingca
> Sent: 10 September 2009 10:22 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [PAYCO] APLA DAY A DAY TO REMEMBER
>
>
>
> Dear Hulisani Mmbara
>
>
>
> The recently elected APLAMVA structure it’s legitimate and is not
running parallel with any structure, unless you can start to mention
one.
> Please tell me as grounded as you claim.  Can the real Pan Africanist
express the way you do? You are not posses and governed by the 8 pillars
of Pan Africanism, worse the PAC basic document, disciplinary code,
manifesto and the speeches of President Robert Sobukwe.
>
>
>
> I understand where you come from and where you are going. Surprise,
surprise “The ground is fertile and conducive for Pan Africanist to
bounce back”.  I don’t want you to change. Change is a PAIN, only
few
> in this world envoys’ pain. Most people are for comfort zone. Those
days
> had come and gone.
>
> When we look back, where we come from, at the time there ware no PAC
structures in place. The establishment of AZANYU and PASO was the
turning
> point of the PAC situation. I fully agree “What is bound to appear is
bound to disappear”. We call it negation of negation.  One day I will
tell you why President Zephaniah Mothopeng said “The situation in
SOUTH
> AFRICA is interesting”   The establishment of Azanian Socialistic
state
> is the highest achievement that the MEN of today can achieve. “The
road
> is fully of cheese as well as cheats” and “fully of trip as well as
traps”. The topic in the basic document is engraved “The final
triumph
> – We will win.
>
> You only continuously wins battles when you are discipline and very
sensitive towards your MEN, even your enemy sometimes. WE ARE MADE FOR
THIS. Our collective memories and action will only make a difference
when
> we sing and move together.
>
> Let all honour “APLA DAY” as a symbol of maturity.  My father used
to
> say to me “My boy you must come to life, you must come to the world.
That mentally unfortunately was drummed in my ears as long as I live. I
believe that he world only embrace the ones are in need off.
>
> The duty of the PAC It’s a challenge of a life time.
>
>
>
> I remained humble.
>
>
>
> Ntandazo “Didi” Gcingca
>
> 073 707 1158
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> From: Tumelo Segakweng <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, September 3, 2009 6:56:11 PM
> Subject: [PAYCO] Re: APLA DAY A DAY TO REMEMBER
>
> I need to meet, however is the leader of PAYco, Africanist can not act
as
> enemies in the same camp so lets meet and iron issues so that it can be
understood if we part ways now or we mend what is broken but let all
have
> patience when approaching such issues, Kwame I particularly need to seat
with and kavin.
>
>
>
> Please call me on my reliable phone 0764848481.
>
>
>
> I remain
>
>
>
> Tumelo Segakweng
>
>   _____
>
> From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Hulisani Mmbara [[email protected]]
> Sent: 02 September 2009 12:00 AM
> To: PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP PAYCO GOOGLE GROUP
> Cc: FIHLA FIHLA; JUSTICE CONCERNED CDE
> Subject: [PAYCO] Re: APLA DAY A DAY TO REMEMBER
>
>
> My Dear Comrades
>
> This call for 'APLAMVA parade' is being made by the illegitimate and
illegal parallel structure, masquerading as APLMVA, formed yesterday.
>
> They must not be endorsed even as invoke the name of APLA.
>
> One PAC! One APLMVA! To hell with factionalism!
>
> Lets ignore these masquerades and focus on rebuilding the PAC!
> <http://graphics.hotmail.com/greypixel.gif> From : Hulisani Mmbara
>
> Call : 082 593 3012
>
> Fax : 086 690 1176
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 10:47:26 -0700
> From: [email protected]
> Subject: [PAYCO] APLA DAY A DAY TO REMEMBER
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
>
> Izwe Lethu!
>
>
>
> This is a clarion call across Azania, PAC is hosting APLA MVA military
parade celebration in East London at NU7 Mdantsane, Eastern Cape.
APLA/Poqo forces across the country will showcase their talent
presenting
> the APLA drill as an instrument of discipline and unite.
>
>
>
> We invite all PAC structures. Remember always to be enchanted by "APLA
military discipline" as a weapon to conquer all challenges that MEN has
ever face.
>
>
>
>
>
> High discipline! High morale!
>
>
>
> Please contact national organiser Cde.     Oscar - @ 074 322 5569.
>
>
>
> Yours in the struggle, for self emancipation and total liberation,
without
> trappings.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ntandazo “Didi” Gcingca
>
>
>
> 073 7071 158
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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