izwelethu. mo afrika we cant run away from facts those leaders that you are proclaiming today they have killed this once glorious party of ours i was part of the task team in the free state to recruited members for the organization and we re guested money of the application forms and we deposited the money into national account, till today where are the membership card of those cadres,that it is not the only thing, they are many of even your self you are aware of.The cape convention is having our blessings.and looking forward to have a true PAC national conference trough the task team.
kwaheri mokone taole provincial coordinator free state.payco cell.0842884063 office.0534441829 Forward ever Backward never Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Convention of confusion From: "Mohlomphegi Mphahlele" <[email protected]> Date: Thu, May 20, 2010 07:49 To: [email protected] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mo Afrika Kwame Maybe comrade I should remind you that Letlapa, Modini and Skwatcha I just the few leaders of PAC. We are the PAC. I don,t think we should put much blame on what is happening in the PAC on those few. The trueth is those few represent the majority of PAC members and that leaves you and other comrades or rather a handful so called conventionalist a faction in the PAC. By that fact you remain a faction. Please there are sensible comrades in the PAC who do not want to correct one wrong with a thousant wrongs. You know you are also wrong. What puzzles me is that in the whole issue you guys think that you are messiahs. You see no wrong in you. You potray yourself as if you are purer than any person in this movement. Comrade you are very few and cannot dictate to the majority members of this organisation your perceived wrong ideas. You are furthure destroying this organisation. Whenever a matter of unity arise you remain so mute. Instead you are critisizing without bringing any altanative. So between us and you who are destroying this organisation? I need to be true to yourself, either you are agents who are bount to destroy this organisation or you are fullfilling the agendas of those few comrades who want a piece of cake in a neo colonialist loot. I think it is time that the inteligents members of this organisation should try and expose people who are agents of destruction in this movement, so that we separate agents from innocent disillusioned comrades. The few we remain the better. We cannot tolerate you to destroy a few at the expense of many. Letlapa, Modini and Skwatsha are only PAC leaders we are the PAC. Down with your destructive motives. Down with wolves in the sheeps skin. ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 1:28:42 PM Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Convention of confusion Comrade Tumelo, I respond to your open letter directed to myself, Hulisani Mmbara, Thapelo and the progressive forces that attended the Cape Town Convention. I personally feel sorry for you as you are trying your level best to defend the undefendable and to convince yourselve that PAC under Mphahlele has made massive strides and has grown in size. Let me help you as a dear comrade, wake up! wake up! its nothing but a bad dream, infact an illusion. First and foremost let me declare to you that I come from Newcastle region, Branch 25 (our branches are ward based) and we have 17 fully fledged branches in a Municipality with 31 wards) and can safely tell you that I have been involve in the establishment of all these branches. In 2007 my branch submitted its forms and deposited money for 50 members to the National office and our money was chowed by Skhwatsha, Mudini and Letlapa. I am truly a street fighter and just cannot be bullied by other boys. Yes I was brought up by my grandmother and not ashamed nor do I feel small. Rest assured son of the soil that I am not traumatised nor stressed by my family background rather it has taught me to be resilient and always fight for justice hence I joined the PAC not ANC or any other party as it sought to create a just society founded on socialist principles. You are correct I get emotional where PAC is concerned, particularly when its destroyed from within. I expect any genuine PAC member to be emotional when PAC that embodies the aspirations, interests and needs of our people is crushed. Mind you people sacrificed their lives for PAC, some sacrificed their youth for PAC, some went to Jail for PAC, some risked the lives of their family members for PAC. PAC is anchored on the pain, sacrifices and suffering of our people therefore it is highly impossible not to be emotional where PAC is concerned, surely you would know that if you were committed and passionate as some of us are about PAC, its history and its achievements. Let me pause for now would respond to other issues you raised when I get time. Izwe lethu!!! Kwame > > Open letter to Mmbara,Linda,Thapelo Matseba and the entire hooligans > emerged from the so called PAC National convention > Ma afrika!, i’ve been so quiet and observant on some of your progressive > debate but now allow me to address you one by one on facts not fiction. > > 1. Mmbara who are you in fact?, you claims to be representing task team of > the PAC, is that not correct?, if you are, who tasked you to perform that > duty?.Are you aware that your booze convention was meant for confused > individuals who are not PAC members or leaders including you?, if you are > contesting that fact why your coordinators didn’t invite the provincial > leaderships of the PAC. What informs your convention?, stress or > entertainment?. > > 2. Linda, from which branch of the PAC are you coming from?, why are you > always insulting and labelling PAC leaders as veranda boys?, what kind of > a boy are you, street boy or traumatised boy raised by a single parent?, i > mean your engagements on political issues are always clouded by emotions > even where not necessary. > > 3. Thapelo, are you the sloganist or just a mere teddy bear ill discipline > fake soldier accommodated within the ranks of APLA to maintain your > stomach frustration?, last time i spoke with you it was at forthare where > your ambitions to be organiser were shattered like rotten tomato,its what > made you disown President Letlapa Mphahlela who you always fund his > programme like Apel Rally held at Frank Mashile?. Thapelo you of course a > disgrace even to those who raised you. > > I urge you to halt calling yourselves PAC task team and behave well if you > are really PAC members. It is surprising that most of you undermine > LETLAPA but fails to bring him down, instead you rallied people not to > vote PAC last year but now you are eying PAC 1 seat, where is logic > rascals?. > Just imagine young vibrant boys like you behave like political virgins,who > do you expect to break your virginity because you don’t listen when people > advise you. The only weapon you claim to have against PAC President is > that default award awarded to Dr Pheko who wanted to be PAC permanent > member of the parliament. > > You are completely misbehaving with your clumsy shallow debates without > progress, when cde Mlambo intervene to forge ahead with unity you bulldoze > it, whats wrong with you boys?. > Let me pause by respecting cde Mawande Jack for his contributions of ideas > even though Thapelo won’t read them. > > Tumelo Molapo,Tubatse region > 073 120 7815 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm > > -- > Sending your posting to [email protected] > > Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > > You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > > Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
Mo Afrika Kwame
Maybe comrade I should remind you that Letlapa, Modini and Skwatcha I just the few leaders of PAC. We are the PAC. I don,t think we should put much blame on what is happening in the PAC on those few. The trueth is those few represent the majority of PAC members and that leaves you and other comrades or rather a handful so called conventionalist a faction in the PAC. By that fact you remain a faction. Please there are sensible comrades in the PAC who do not want to correct one wrong with a thousant wrongs. You know you are also wrong. What puzzles me is that in the whole issue you guys think that you are messiahs. You see no wrong in you. You potray yourself as if you are purer than any person in this movement. Comrade you are very few and cannot dictate to the majority members of this organisation your perceived wrong ideas. You are furthure destroying this organisation. Whenever a matter of unity arise you remain so mute. Instead you are critisizing without bringing any altanative. So between us and you who are destroying this organisation?
I need to be true to yourself, either you are agents who are bount to destroy this organisation or you are fullfilling the agendas of those few comrades who want a piece of cake in a neo colonialist loot.
I think it is time that the inteligents members of this organisation should try and expose people who are agents of destruction in this movement, so that we separate agents from innocent disillusioned comrades. The few we remain the better. We cannot tolerate you to destroy a few at the expense of many. Letlapa, Modini and Skwatsha are only PAC leaders we are the PAC.
Down with your destructive motives. Down with wolves in the sheeps skin.
Maybe comrade I should remind you that Letlapa, Modini and Skwatcha I just the few leaders of PAC. We are the PAC. I don,t think we should put much blame on what is happening in the PAC on those few. The trueth is those few represent the majority of PAC members and that leaves you and other comrades or rather a handful so called conventionalist a faction in the PAC. By that fact you remain a faction. Please there are sensible comrades in the PAC who do not want to correct one wrong with a thousant wrongs. You know you are also wrong. What puzzles me is that in the whole issue you guys think that you are messiahs. You see no wrong in you. You potray yourself as if you are purer than any person in this movement. Comrade you are very few and cannot dictate to the majority members of this organisation your perceived wrong ideas. You are furthure destroying this organisation. Whenever a matter of unity arise you remain so mute. Instead you are critisizing without bringing any altanative. So between us and you who are destroying this organisation?
I need to be true to yourself, either you are agents who are bount to destroy this organisation or you are fullfilling the agendas of those few comrades who want a piece of cake in a neo colonialist loot.
I think it is time that the inteligents members of this organisation should try and expose people who are agents of destruction in this movement, so that we separate agents from innocent disillusioned comrades. The few we remain the better. We cannot tolerate you to destroy a few at the expense of many. Letlapa, Modini and Skwatsha are only PAC leaders we are the PAC.
Down with your destructive motives. Down with wolves in the sheeps skin.
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, May 19, 2010 1:28:42 PM
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Convention of confusion
Comrade Tumelo,
I respond to your open letter directed to myself, Hulisani Mmbara, Thapelo
and the progressive forces that attended the Cape Town Convention. I
personally feel sorry for you as you are trying your level best to defend
the undefendable and to convince yourselve that PAC under Mphahlele has
made massive strides and has grown in size. Let me help you as a dear
comrade, wake up! wake up! its nothing but a bad dream, infact an
illusion.
First and foremost let me declare to you that I come from Newcastle
region, Branch 25 (our branches are ward based) and we have 17 fully
fledged branches in a Municipality with 31 wards) and can safely tell you
that I have been involve in the establishment of all these branches. In
2007 my branch submitted its forms and deposited money for 50 members to
the National office and our money was chowed by Skhwatsha, Mudini and
Letlapa. I am truly a street fighter and just cannot be bullied by other
boys. Yes I was brought up by my grandmother and not ashamed nor do I feel
small. Rest assured son of the soil that I am not traumatised nor stressed
by my family background rather it has taught me to be resilient and always
fight for justice hence I joined the PAC not ANC or any other party as it
sought to create a just society founded on socialist principles.
You are correct I get emotional where PAC is concerned, particularly when
its destroyed from within. I expect any genuine PAC member to be emotional
when PAC that embodies the aspirations, interests and needs of our people
is crushed. Mind you people sacrificed their lives for PAC, some
sacrificed their youth for PAC, some went to Jail for PAC, some risked the
lives of their family members for PAC. PAC is anchored on the pain,
sacrifices and suffering of our people therefore it is highly impossible
not to be emotional where PAC is concerned, surely you would know that if
you were committed and passionate as some of us are about PAC, its history
and its achievements.
Let me pause for now would respond to other issues you raised when I get
time.
Izwe lethu!!!
Kwame
>
> Open letter to Mmbara,Linda,Thapelo Matseba and the entire hooligans
> emerged from the so called PAC National convention
> Ma afrika!, ive been so quiet and observant on some of your progressive
> debate but now allow me to address you one by one on facts not fiction.
>
> 1. Mmbara who are you in fact?, you claims to be representing task team of
> the PAC, is that not correct?, if you are, who tasked you to perform that
> duty?.Are you aware that your booze convention was meant for confused
> individuals who are not PAC members or leaders including you?, if you are
> contesting that fact why your coordinators didnt invite the provincial
> leaderships of the PAC. What informs your convention?, stress or
> entertainment?.
>
> 2. Linda, from which branch of the PAC are you coming from?, why are you
> always insulting and labelling PAC leaders as veranda boys?, what kind of
> a boy are you, street boy or traumatised boy raised by a single parent?, i
> mean your engagements on political issues are always clouded by emotions
> even where not necessary.
>
> 3. Thapelo, are you the sloganist or just a mere teddy bear ill discipline
> fake soldier accommodated within the ranks of APLA to maintain your
> stomach frustration?, last time i spoke with you it was at forthare where
> your ambitions to be organiser were shattered like rotten tomato,its what
> made you disown President Letlapa Mphahlela who you always fund his
> programme like Apel Rally held at Frank Mashile?. Thapelo you of course a
> disgrace even to those who raised you.
>
> I urge you to halt calling yourselves PAC task team and behave well if you
> are really PAC members. It is surprising that most of you undermine
> LETLAPA but fails to bring him down, instead you rallied people not to
> vote PAC last year but now you are eying PAC 1 seat, where is logic
> rascals?.
> Just imagine young vibrant boys like you behave like political virgins,who
> do you expect to break your virginity because you dont listen when people
> advise you. The only weapon you claim to have against PAC President is
> that default award awarded to Dr Pheko who wanted to be PAC permanent
> member of the parliament.
>
> You are completely misbehaving with your clumsy shallow debates without
> progress, when cde Mlambo intervene to forge ahead with unity you bulldoze
> it, whats wrong with you boys?.
> Let me pause by respecting cde Mawande Jack for his contributions of ideas
> even though Thapelo wont read them.
>
> Tumelo Molapo,Tubatse region
> 073 120 7815
>
>
>
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