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On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Masande Gonya <[email protected]> wrote:

> I LOVE THIS DEBATE.......WE NEED TO PUSH FOR UNITY.....WE NEED HAVE AN ARMY
> OF LEADERS, GOOD MOBILISERS/ORGANISERS TO TAKE PAC FORWARD. THE OPPOSITION
> IS HAVING LOST OF PPL THAT ARE BEHIND THE SCENES: STRATEGISTS AND SO ON. IF
> WE NOTICE THE APPROACH IS HAVING, THE VOTERS ARE CHANGING VERY
> FAST.....EVERYONE WANT A MOVEMENT THAT IS HAVING GOOD IMAGE.
>
>
> WE ALSO NEED TO RESEARCH ABOUT OTHER REVOLUTINARY PARTIES SUCH CPP (OF
> KWAME NKRUMAH WHAT WENT WRONG) AND OTHER PARTIES THAT FACED THE SAME PROBLEM
> BUT MANAGED TO RAISE ABOVE.
>
> ONE THE PASMA MEMBERS ONCE SAID "INVEST ON YOUTH", BECAUSE THEY ARE THE
> FUTURE OF THE COUNTRY. WE KNOW THE CHALLENGE IS ONE THE RULLING PARTY IS
> SPREADING PROPAGANDA ABOUT US AND WE NEED TO COME TO OUR SOBER MINDS AND
> MOVE FORWARD. PAN AFRICANISM IS THE ONLY SOLUTION.......BUT PPL THEY WILL
> NEVER JUST COME TO US. WE NEED TO SACRIFICE A LOT TO PREPARE A BRIGHT FUTURE
> FOR KIDS.
>
> I REMAIN A PAN AFRICANIST.....WITH DISCPLINE
>
> On 20 May 2011 14:44, Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Cde Elijah Skhosana:
>>
>>  The strategy of the PAC should be miscellaneous. Relying on a single
>> narrow approach will be very treacherous for us. Are you aware that the DA
>> has been campaigning in Universities to get graduates alluring them with
>> some sots of lucrative offers in its cooperate formations. Someone told me
>> that,  in order to defeat your enemy, emulate and improve their strategy. We
>> haven't fought blood fights with the charterists to bicker for membership or
>> political influence. They have always been ahead of us, and we have been
>> trailing behind. My central point is, whichever, strategy that we can come
>> with. If its designed to lead us to the revamped PAC I am happy. Your
>> argument is too simplistic, let us capture the poor, landless and so on. The
>> question I have is do they believe in us as credible leaders. i tell you, we
>> need to develop structures before we can claim the support of the
>> downtrodden masses of Azania. Why did Vusimuzi Make seek to restore the
>> splinter group Templeton Ntantala in exile ? the option should have been
>> simple and said, these are just dissidents who must be ignored. Those that
>> chronicle our history tell us that during the periods of Vusimuzi Make and
>> John Nyathi Pokela the PAC was back to its pristine position in which it was
>> the  60's.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> Elijah Skhosana
>> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 11:11 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>>  Subject: RE: [PAYCO] National.xls
>>
>> M-Afrika Walter/Mduduzi, are you saying that the success of the PAC
>> depends on those who deserted it instead of the masses who really need it
>> for their ultimate freedom? Those who still believe in the revival of the
>> PAC must work hard and with unequaled commitment in putting the line across
>> in every corner of the land preaching the "gospel of truth" to the masses,
>> perchance those who deserted the party will also hear the message and come
>> back home. I am not suggesting that our fellow Africans and Africanists in
>> those formations should not be recruited back but that should not be the
>> programme of the party lest we will be like others surviving on making
>> alliances so that we can get seats in parliament.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
>> Walter Molapo
>> Sent: 20 May 2011 10:13 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] National.xls
>>
>> Cde Ali Khangela Hlongwane, when are you guys gona realise that as
>> Africans we really need each other. Comrades in PAM, APC, some in ID and DA
>> including ANC were members of PAC, if PAC is serious about occupying a
>> strategic place in the politics of our African continent and the world it
>> must seek to claim these comrades back to PAC. PAC COMRADES PLEASE START TO
>> THINK BIG.
>>
>> >>> <[email protected]> 2011/05/20 09:52 AM >>>
>>
>>
>>        Cde Mduduzi
>>
>> I would like to point out that the line you are taking is meaningless.
>> That is looking at PAM and APC as so-called brothers. The teachings of the
>> founders of the PAC particularly Sobukwe, Pokela and Mothopeng was always
>> that we must look up to the masses of African people. We are told that the
>> population of Azania is 49 million people. We must look to those millions
>> of Africans out there-intellectuals, students, the youth, workers, the
>> rural poor, the unemployed and the homeless. It is by understanding the
>> new struggles of these popular classes that we can rebuild the PAC. In
>> fact it is these masses who can rebuild the PAC. This will translate into
>> the PAC having a presence in the ever changing settlement landscape of
>> Azania; it will mean the PAC evolving fresh perspectives on the complex
>> problems of Azania, Africa and the world we live in; it will mean the PAC
>> evolving new strategies and tactics for organising and mobilising- I agree
>> with you that the PAYCO goggle group has potential and we should encourage
>> more Africanists to subscribe. We may not agree with Obama but it would be
>> foolish not to study his mastery of the new forms of communication. The
>> same applies to the uprisings in Egypt and Tunisia. Can the sms, email,
>> etc be one of many forums we can use to speak to each other, strategise
>> and rebuild structure.  In the final analysis a programme of renewal that
>> looks to people who broke away from the PAC as opposed to the millions of
>> people out there is bound to fail.
>>
>>
>>
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