Cde Mabaso, Narius

Your writing is profoundly striking. I agree that all the forces of the 
Africanists should be welded together. It is true that congresses are 
constitutional institutions. However, the a number of constitutions of various 
political formations do not put in to account the reality of structural 
paralysis within organizations. I support the view that a convention should be 
a harbinger of a congress. Africanists in various formations should unite once 
and for all.

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From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Chargein Mabaso
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 6:57 PM
To: payco@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] THE PAC IS NOT READY FOR A NATIONAL CONGRESS

Comrade Narius

If you are an honest and loyal PAC member interested in uniting and rebuilding 
PAC as you claim, you are expected to respect and comply with the PAC 
Constitution all the time. You are also expected to draw lessons from past PAC 
precedences in resolving its problems and past PAC successes and failures and 
its legacy as a Party. I am referring, for example, to the role played by 
Pokela in exile to unite and rebuilt the Party, how the PAC congress was 
convened after unbanning OF PAC without the PAC NEC in place as per 
constitution and the convening of the PAC Convetion in Pretoria.

People who want to unite and build the PAC follow in the footsteps of Pokela 
and Makwetu who allowed the convetion to convene even when it was not catered 
for in the PAC constitution. If you are still an honest and loyal PAC, why are 
you are a stumbling block  to initiatives intended to rescue this great Party 
of Robert Mangaliso Sobukwe? Only enemies can stand against the unity and 
rebuilding of PAC so that it does not take its rightful place in SA politics, 
even when the ANC failed to deliver on its election promises for many times. If 
you are not, comrade, please be on right side of history and work with all PAC 
members who are calling for an all-inclusive solution to PAC problems. Don't 
push them away. You know the damaged made by the decree and orders in the PAC 
under comrade Letlapa.  PAC is not your private property, son of the soil. It 
belongs to all PAC members.

I expect you to talk to comrade Letlapa as a comrade to humble himself and 
accept the vote of no convidence against his leadership and step aside to allow 
the process to go smoothly so that comrades can forgive him in future in a 
comradeship spirit and forget what he did to the Party. He thought the route he 
took will save PAC but it did the opposite. He can be indemnified for his acts 
if he humbles himself to the Party. We forgave whites for centuries of 
brutality. They numbled themselves so far. It was lesson not for him alone but 
for all of us.
We all make mistakes. He is human like us too. He makes mistakes.

If you will convene the PAC congress as planned, more harm will be done to the 
PAC than before.

 I am making my input as a PAM members for two reasons. Firstly, PAM is the PAC 
of R.M. Sobukwe. Secondly, we share the same ancestors - Sobukwe, Mothopeng and 
Pokela.
M-Afrika, it is true that a divided house will never stand. The saying also 
applies to Pan Africanists too.
Let us spend our time in the future talking about the realignment of Africanist 
and socialist forces within PAC, ANC, AZAPO, PAM, APC, etc to come together and 
to form the revolutionary alternative to the current neocolonial alternative in 
SA.

Today, Julius Malema is expelled from the ANC for articulating our political 
stand on nationalisation and the land question on an ANC platform. He has now 
no political home to go to. Where is PAC of 53 years old. He has raised the 
land question in SA back to the center stage. I agree he is a rough diamond. At 
least, he is a diamond.  He only needs to be polished by good mentors to be an 
asset.

Izwe Lethu!

Charge-in Mabaso
0710203554





On 4/26/12, Narius Moloto <g...@bcawu.co.za> wrote:
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> The PAC constitution currently in force imposes the National Congress 
> shall be held every third year from the last one. This is not 
> optional, it is mandatory. The question and process of uniting the 
> party cannot be linked with this constitutional requirement unless 
> otherwise decided by the congress itself.
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> The congress of the PAC  constituted by delegates from party branches 
> are the supreme organ of the organization and shall ultimately be the 
> one to decide and their decision shall be binding on all disciplined 
> members of the PAC. In case where there are different opinions and 
> feelings on an issue, the constitutional provision relevant to a subject 
> matter decides.
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> Branches are expected to make submissions, resolutions, nominations 
> and any other issue they feel the PAC Congress must address. This is 
> the time we must spend our energy and time doing. The fate of the 
> party cannot be decided outside the congress of the PAC. Differing 
> views, opinions and feelings are part of organizational life because 
> there different people in the organization.
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> It must be clears through that PAC Congress scheduled for 14-15 July 
> 2012 is decoded and will go ahead as decided, nothing will change. 
> What is not clear though is why the congress should not go ahead. What 
> is suggested now why it was not suggested all along? Are people 
> discovering that they don't have branches and the need time to go and 
> create some? Are people realizing now that they are not members in 
> good standing and cannot just pay now and attend the congress in July?
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> The congress is not for people at the helm of the party but for the 
> members of the party but for the members of the party from the 
> branches. Congress is the only opportunity for the members of the PAC 
> through their delegates have a greater saying on all issues and 
> matters of the organization including the leadership of the organization 
> itself.
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> If all comrades who have been complaining genuinely want to fix and 
> correct the problem they have been having for the last six years, 
> surely they should be happy that the congress is coming earlier than 
> later. They should be happy because they know they will be there as 
> delegates and that finally the right forum to address their issues is now 
> available.
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> When is the right time? Since 2008 to date is not enough time?
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> One gets the impression that the strategy is to oppose everything that 
> the current leadership or president come up with if this is the case, it is 
> bad.
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> Narius Moloto
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> From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Dzumbu Mmbara
> Sent: 26 April 2012 12:25 AM
> To: PAYCO
> Subject: [PAYCO] THE PAC IS NOT READY FOR A NATIONAL CONGRESS
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> The Pan Africanist Youth (PAYCO) of Azania has been following the 
> latest developments in the party (PAC) with great interest. We are of 
> the view that the party should not hold a national congress on the 
> 14-15 July 2012 but instead should hold an inclusive conference first.
>
> We strive for a united PAC, but the unity must be underpinned by 
> principle, common vision and a program of action to rebuild the party 
> and position it in the center stage of our political space. The PAC 
> has been in a critical condition of organisational paralysis for  
> sometime now and we have got no one to blame but ourselves as members.
>
> The incumbent at the helm of the party, unconstitutionally and 
> illegally so, have time and again showed great disregard for PAC 
> members and we have allowed this contempt for internal democracy to 
> carry-on. In this show of contempt to the PAC and its members, in 2007 
> he invoked a rule by decree without any good reason. This lead to a 
> bogus congress which took place in Alice (Fort Hare, 6th July 2008).
>
> Right thinking members of the party cannot allow themselves to attend 
> an unconstitutional congress of the PAC. It is a known fact that if 
> there is a rule by decree it simply means that there is no 
> constitution nor NEC, so who calls the congress and which document 
> will be guiding constitution of such congress? The way the Alice 
> congress was constituted was not in accordance with the constitution 
> and so is the congress scheduled for 14-15 July 2012 in Butterworth. 
> The PAC Constitution in clauses 5.1 - 5.6 and 8.1.1 and
> 8.1.3 gives a clear directive on how and who should call or arrange 
> the party's congress/conference.
>
> We all know what happened in Alice, parallel structures were created 
> to cause confusion and further dwarf the growth of the party. Those 
> with blind loyalty were convinced to approve such actions which were 
> not in the interest of the party. After all sanity prevailed, because 
> the only constitution of the party, the Ga-Matlala 2000 Constitution 
> reigns supreme, and it is a great opportunity for us to rebuild the 
> wrecked party structures.
>
> It is a well known fact that since 2008 (Alice farce) the PAC has 
> never had an annual conference. How can a party with an important task 
> as the PAC exist without meeting at grassroots level to review its 
> programs, policies, strategy and tactics? From where we stand, there 
> is no branch, region or province which can claim to be in good 
> standing, because the majority of branches, regions and provinces are yet to 
> comply with the PAC constitution.
> The latest gimmicks by Letlapa and crew is nothing but a repeat of Alice.
> The question is whether we are going to allow this to happen, again?
>
> Any sane member can clearly see that there is a serious problem in our 
> party and we are the main cause of that problem. For how long shall 
> the PAC suffer the same fate and for how long shall PAC members be 
> reduced to voting cattles? It is upon members of the party to do the 
> right thing and that is to stop individuals from continuing to rape the 
> constitution of the party.
> The PAC belongs to us, not to individuals, and therefore we cannot 
> allow the party to be held at ransom by an individual.
>
> We call upon all progressive members of the party to make sure that 
> the PAC holds a conference not an elective congress. We further call 
> upon the youth in the party to never allow the situation in the party 
> to deteriorate further, because history will judge them harshly. At a 
> national conference, members will have power to resolve the ongoing 
> malady in the party. The incumbent does not have locus standi to call 
> any gathering of the party. As members of the party we can conference 
> and decide how do we take the party forward!
>
> Unite PAC Unite!!!
> Izwe Lethu!!!
>
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