Comrades! I equally find Matome's contributions interesting and befitting our thinking. While I agree with Matome on the two kind of leaderships for which our people might choose which one to follow, I think the third option available for our people and which is retrogressive and unsustainable is that of "Populist Rupture", I believe that Azania might be headed for this type of leadership, trusted by our people on the bases that the current state failed to respond to popular demands. The fact that people are getting annoyed on daily bases by untrustworthy political parties shall lead to manifestation of a new populist identity/order. I support the suggestion by comrade Matome that we need to converge, debate and graft our location&purpose in the society, we need to tell the people of Africa that our intentions are to lead a revolution against the current system. If we do not indicates this to the people now, our own people shall rejected PAC like all other political parties when they resort to other forms of leaderships.
Lastly, it is evident that our people are already in a leaderless revolution, the service delivery protest in almost all townships in Azania are indicative of the aforesaid. Its unfortunate that if this already persistent revolution can gain momentum and unseat ANC in the absence of us(PAC) we will be lead by a revolution of which the motive forces are not necessarily class dynamics and political ideology. I suggest, therefore, that PAYCO discuss this matter during its NEC meeting and take a lead in arranging a platform on which a way forward on how we engage our people. I further propose that progressive former Leaders of PAYCO, PAC, PASMA and those proposed by Tembelani get invited. Afrika Our Land! Walter Molapo Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device ________________________________ From: tembelani xundu <[email protected]> Sender: <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 22:29:49 -0700 To: [email protected]<[email protected]> ReplyTo: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] What the masses will look for in choosing leadership for SA, as they overthrow the ruling regime!! Comrades I find Matome's comment very intriguing and spot on. I suggest that few Comrades should lead a discussion on the so called 'national democratic revolution' as espoused by the charterist camp (ANC,SACP & COSATU) and the Permanent Revolution (championed by Trosky). The loose combination of national liberation agaisnt settler colonialism and establishment of a democratic order is what easily lead to a religiuos embrace of the two stage theory and the coining of documents like first and second transition by the charterist. The whole liberation movement is now wrongly defined as proponents of this NDR.The establishment of a socialist democracy is a single process that cannot be achieved over night, and means, in our old but relevant revolutionary jargon that the colonial apartheid system cannot be reformed but changed. I invite Comrades Thabo Ntoni, Jaki Seroke, Raymond Kgakgudi, Charge Inn Mabaso and Cunninham Ngcukana to lead this discussion on the National Democratic Revolution and Permanent Revolution and place the National Question in its correct ideological location. We are going somewhere Comrades, thanks to Cde Matome. Tembelani ----- Original Message ----- From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Cc: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 1:19 AM Subject: [PAYCO] What the masses will look for in choosing leadership for SA, as they overthrow the ruling regime!! A closer look at the South African society and its structural organisation suggests we are headed for change of government much sooner than many believe. While most of us share in the analytic conclusion that the ruling regime is on a collapse mode, we have however not given ourselves time to postulate, scientifically at least, how and what will our people look to in making this decision. My conversation recently with some of our comrades, the lowest of the pyramid so to speak, in Langa, Cape Town has got me thinking a lot about the reality of this question. I suggest that we get seized with this kind of analysis to avoid guess work, spontaneity in prosecuting the revolution that awaits us and is near. I flag a few ideas on this matter. I am of the strongest view that our people bearing the brunt of isolation and general poverty will choose between: a leadership founded out of revolution or a leadership founded on efficiency. What is certain is that many of our people are rapidly concluding that if they wish to remove the ruling regime on an efficiency ticket, the DA shall be their vanguard. Many of our people look at the efficiency in governance in Cape Town COMPARED to other governments ran by our African brothers. Viewed from this angle, it needs be understood, and perhaps not necessarily conceded to, that to remove the ruling elite on an efficiency ticket would be a difficult one as this ground is already taken and occupied by the DA. I am not even sure that removing the regime on efficiency ticket is the right thing for us and in fact I suggest not. This option suggests that the system is ok, all we need to do is to get it to run efficiently. This by the way is the view of capital and its political front, DA. A change of government on this ticket will compromise the fundamentals of our freedom cause. So it must be clear that our only option path to remove the ruling elite is through revolution as this offers us a real opportunity to destroy the system and not to reform it. As stated the masses will also evaluate whether they should remove the regime through revolution as opposed to the efficiency gentlemash option. This entails getting them to question the foundational issues of our society and how these relate to our day to day aspirations. This unlike, the efficiency ticket, is the ticket that has no owner. Whoever takes on this ticket (revolution path) will lead our masses into government change. Timing is of the essence here. Should we not act with speed and urgency on this ticket, and the efficiency ticket triumphs, our people will go into lull in the hope that the efficiency philosophy will deliver. Since the revolution path is the only meaningful way, we must adopt it and show our people that this is the only option to substantive freedom and to self determination. The efficiency path is championed by liberals resident in many organisations including ours. We must be on guard, ridding ourselves of this ill at every turn. The truth though is that as we stand here today, our people in significant numbers are shifting to the efficiency path as the way to free themselves, and see the DA in that context as their leader. What they don't see is a leader to guide them should they adopt the revolution path option. Communities keep rising now and again but all these have been leaderless, only to be reduced to angry lone spots that are quick fizzle out and dissipate. We need to urgently converge and decide on activities to win our people s confidence that we can lead the revolution path option. Afrika is our land !! 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