So ke you believe in dual membership as purported by Mabaso On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:07 AM, tembelani xundu <[email protected]> wrote:
> Comrades > > This is may be one subject that needs thaughtful reflection if we are > infact unhappy with the status quo in the party. The propensity to use > Marxist literature to throw diatribes at Comrades and tag dissent in all > soughts of unrevolutionary ways must be discouraged. As far as I am > concerned members of the PAC sing in munison to denounce Mr Letlapa as a > true custodian of the ideals of the PAC in thaught and deed. The departure > from the ideals of the PAC guiding documents have been bemoaned by all > except those that are deemed members by the 'Supreme Commander" and that > forms the critical mass of the PAC as we know it before Letlapa took the > reigns. According to Letlapa and those next to him only those that he gave > membership cards are genuine members of the PAC and only them have a > genuine claim to the name and symbols of the PAC. There have been a > prolonged period of gestation of this political design. To reverse and undo > this situation there has been all soughts of attempts, convetions, cout > actions etc. Hitherto Letlapa's design prevails. This is indisputable. > > There are initiatives by many Comrades of the party that have defined > themselves outside the PAC led by Letlapa but believe that theirs is to > bring sanity in the PAC and redirect it back to its historical path. Ngoku > iphambukile (It is now being led completely astray). In my understanding > PAM was formed by those dismembered cadres of the party who believed that > Letlapa has abandoned the ideals of the PAC as we knew it so are many > initiatives. To me Letlapa is by default defined and described by all > non-Africanists including legal institutions like parliament and courts as > a leader of the PAC. I would argue very strongly that party cadreship lost > initiative to opportunists who masquaraded as champions of our cause and > made their way to the commanding heights of the party. > > It is the historic duty of our revolutionary cadreship to regain > initiative, cover lost ground, think strategically and position the > vanguard party at the centre of political discourse and the revolution of > our people. But it will be dillussional not to acknowledge the compelling > reality that cadres of the party are displaced in all these initiatives we > created and they all have role to play for us to regain initiative. It > helps to recall Comrades that Joseph Stalin became the leader in Russia > after the death of Vladimir Lenin because of the lack of a progressive and > vibrant cadreship in Russia at that moment. Lenin wrote a letter in which > he did not mince his words that Leon Trosky and not Stalin is his > prefferred successor. The letter was never read to the Communist party and > consequently not acted on. In the final analysis Trosky was assasinated in > 1940 by Stalin's agents and Russia took a brand (Stalinism) of Marxism it > followed that resulted to its implosion. I am saying this because there has > never been any noticeable departure on the ideological and strategic thrust > fro Stalin right to leadership characters such Cruschev, Brevhnev until > atleat Gorbachev in Russia. > > Africanist cadreship from all factional and political devide must regain > initiative as a collective and harmonise all the current initiatives and > the PAC will emerge the giant it is meant to be. Truth being said > organisations and groupings such as PAM, APC, Cde Jacki, PAYCO, Concerned > Cadres, Purists in the sidelines, Armchair analysts, Opportunits are a > colourful reflection of a well orchestrated political displacement in one > instance and interventions (particularly PAM, APC, Cde Jacki, Concerned > Cadres) in another. By design interventions are not permanent. The PAC is > a revolutionary vanguard of the African masses if it maintains its ideals > whose trajectory goes beyond the end of time. They all have a role to play > towards rebuilding the PAC. > > > Tembelani > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nkrumah <[email protected]> > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Re: Dual Membership > > Comrade Charge-in > > When confronted by two line struggle, what should proponents of a > revolutionary line do? As a revolutionary fraction? > > The reasons you advance as the basis motivating the departure from PAC to > form PAM had been equally echoed by those who formed APC particularly Godi. > Beyond what you wrote, of significance is the political programmes which > represent and expose ideas from and on which a party formed proves and > demonstrate without any form of contradictions in deeds what you argue to > be the basis that justifies the perspective you advance. > > With the rising tide of public protests, the recent mineworkers struggles > and upspring including the massacre of 34 mineworkers, PAM has been dormant > > Thus far, PAM has not demonstrated and proven on the basis of its > ideological and political theoratical conviction that its is distinct from > many middle class and other African comprador bourgouisie adventurism, thus > far dual membership remain unjustified until proven otherwise! > > Regards > Nkrumah > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > Chargein Mabaso <[email protected]> wrote: > > >Son of the soil > > > >I do not understand your reasons as you claim that I know them. I would > >like to know if do not mind. Share with us your reservarions. > > > >I personnaly claim to be a loyal member of the PAC of 1959. I also claim > >that PAM is the PAC of 1959, not the current PAC under Letlapa Mphahlele. > >That is the reason I think genuine Pan Africanists can still join PAM, not > >pseudo-Pan Africanists. I personally beleive I cannot join the current PAC > >as it stands. On this issue, I raised my concern loud and clear in the > last > >PAC NEC I attend as a National Secretary for Finance. I still maintain my > >position. > > > >For those who were not in that NEC meeting when Letlapa threatened to > throw > >PAC Basic Documents into the dustbin of history, I told those who attended > >that meeting that to me what made the difference between the PAC and the > >ANC was the 1959 PAC Basic Documents, especially the PAC Constitution, not > >the name PAC or ANC. To me, the PAC or ANC name are irrelevant. They were > >irrelevant even to Sobukwe. Before the 1959 PAC Inaugural Conference, they > >never knew upfront their party would be PAC. Many of them confessed. They > >never broke from the ANC with PAC name in mind. Those who are glued to the > >name PAC are like O.R. Tambo who was to married to the name ANC more than > >the ANC stand and 1949 Programe of Action. > > > >What made me to join PAC was not the name PAC but the Basic Documents (PAC > >ideology, policies, traditon, principles and procedures. Before I joined > >PAC, I heard about PAC name but not its Basic Documents. I saw no reason > >to join it. The name PAC never influened me to join. I was later > influenced > >by the PAC documents to join PAC late after I returned to Mthatha where I > >was intorduced to the PAC Basic Documents. They made me joined the PAC. To > >me, the current PAC is not the PAC of Sobukwe, Mothopeng and Pokela I > >joined as young man. That is the reason I cannot join it in its current > >form. > > > >Currently, there are many conscious and unconscious charterirsts within > the > >current PAC. Unfortunately, I am not a charterists. And as such, I cannot > >join such elemnts in their treacherous acts. . > > > >Izwe Lethu! > > > >Charge-in Mabaso > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:58 AM, xolani makwedini <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> I think mna Charge-in, that is a bad idea for any person to be a member > of > >> PAM and PAC and dont I ask me why, u know th reasons > >> > >> > >> On Thursday, September 20, 2012 11:19:54 AM UTC+2, Chargein Mabaso > wrote: > >>> > >>> Comrades, > >>> > >>> Many people are wondering when the unholy marriage of convenience among > >>> the Tripartite Alliance partners (ANC, COSATU and SACP) will come to > an end > >>> one day. After the Marikana developments, many political commentators > >>> expected COSATU congress to resolve to either deliver divorce papers > to the > >>> ANC or at the least demand the change of leadership at the coming > December > >>> ANC Conference at Mangaung. They may now be wondering why it is not the > >>> case. > >>> > >>> The truth is one. ANC is nothing without the Tripartite Alliance, > >>> especially COSATU. ANC leaders knew this fact long ago when they > decided to > >>> form the Alliance. They know one thing that no serious-minded > political can > >>> rule South Africa without exercising political influence (hegemony) > over > >>> the unions, civic movements, professional bodies, NGOs, churches, etc. > They > >>> learn this fact from Soviet Hegemony, Gramsci's view on hegemony, US > >>> dominance, etc. ANC understood very early the power of dual membership > in a > >>> political terrain. The same is true of Democratic Alliance (DA). As we > >>> know, DA is a product of the alliance (unity) between the DP and NP, > >>> possible Solidarity playing secretly the role of COSATU for the DA . > The > >>> two parties came to understand the power of unity / alliance of the > >>> like-minded in the current terrain of struggle in our country. They > called > >>> for the realignment of all counterrevolutionary forces to contest power > >>> against the reformist Tripartite Alliance. But, Pan Africanists, > socialist > >>> formations and BC forces are the exception to the rule. They do not > believe > >>> to the idea of unity or alliance politics. May be our attitude > explains the > >>> reason we marginalized in the new political dispensation. We all became > >>> minority parties out of our own choice. > >>> > >>> Take an example of Julius Malema who is enjoying the support of mine > >>> worker as we speak. He has been articulation our position on our behalf > >>> because he sees the political vacuum left behind by the PAC in the New > >>> Democracy. He is exploiting it, for good or bad reasons. Many people > told > >>> us time and again that voters do not want land and nationalization of > the > >>> commanding heights of our economy. They want only jobs but not land and > >>> equitable distribution of wealth in this country. They said PAC must > tone > >>> down. Letlapa's project is intended to do just that. They said voters > want > >>> PAC to discard its Basic Documents. But, Marikana developments proved > them > >>> wrong. > >>> > >>> Ma-Afrika, Cde Letlapa and his cronies are working for our enemies and > >>> rivals, consciously or unconsciously. They are conscious and > unconscious > >>> Charterists who are working day and night to silence PAC for good at > the > >>> time when it is needed mostly. Today, voters have no alternative to go > to > >>> because the work of the current PAC leaders. They want to bury the PAC > >>> alive. Just imagine what will happen to PAC after the Butterworth > Congress. > >>> For the coming 5 - 10 years, there is possibility that PAC will remain > >>> where it is or get worse. > >>> > >>> The question that many PAC members must ask themselves is: What is to > be > >>> done? The latest developments forces all Pan Africanists to stop > folding > >>> arms and wait for coming congresses. We must do whatever we can with > what > >>> we now have in our disposal. True revolutionaries cannot remain static. > >>> They must be dynamic and position themselves strategically as > developments > >>> inform them. I know there those who will say they are active on the > ground > >>> and quote visits to Marikana and other programs. Without acting as a > party > >>> is self-defeating. Unless you are like Malema. If he loses at > Mangaung, he > >>> cannot waiting for five years for another ANC conference. If he does, > he > >>> will lose the momentum. He has no choice but to form another party. The > >>> same is true of those PAC forces who working hard within PAC against > >>> Letlapa. Those who will form parallel structure will banned from using > PAC > >>> logo and expelled by Letlapa faction like he did to us. Many comrades > are > >>> asking themselves one question: Then, what is to be done under these > >>> difficulty conditions? We love PAC with all our hearts and minds. > >>> > >>> One PAC cadre phoned me some time ago wanting to know PAM position on > >>> dual members. Does PAM allow either its members to be also PAC members > or > >>> PAC members to be PAM members at the same time bearing in mind the fact > >>> that the policies of both parties are the same on paper? At that time, > I > >>> remember, I said no. After Butterworth congress I revisited my > response and > >>> said to myself PAM needs to address this burning issue bearing in mind > >>> Clause 3 of 1959 PAC Constitution on Membership which reads as follows: > >>> > >>> " a) Any African who is of the age of 16 years or above and accepts > >>> the principles, programme and discipline ofthe P.A.C shall be eligible > for > >>> membership, provided that: > >>> > >>> (i) He/She is not a member of any political organization whose > >>> policy is inconsistent with that of the P.AC <http://p.ac/>. > >>> > >>> (ii) The National Executive Committee shall from time to time > >>> determine whether a certain organisation is inconsistent with the > cause of > >>> the P.A.C." > >>> > >>> This clause was erased from PAC Constitution after Thohoyando Congress. > >>> Under the current conditions of PAC quarantine, this clause Sobukwe's > inner > >>> circle wrote in the PAC Constitution is needed. We must remember how we > >>> launched PAM in 1989. PAC President, Zeph Mothopeng, instructed us to > >>> launch PASO and PAM as internal wings of PAC in addition to AZANYU. He > said > >>> he was the only one who was allowed by the racist regime to stand on > any > >>> platform as a PAC member. We were not allowed. As a result, we > disbanded > >>> PAM after the unbanning of PAC. Zeph was smarter than the Boers. His > plan > >>> worked well as he did on June 16. He saw the need for PASO and PAM. > >>> > >>> Ma-Afrika, I am raising all these points in a hurry to say, under the > >>> current conditions, what is your opinion of dual membership for PAC, > PAM > >>> and even NACTU ? Will such a move take the struggle forward and prove > our > >>> enemies, rivals and their agents wrong in their infiltration of the Pan > >>> Africanist fold? I want your input in this regard, positively or > >>> negatively. Let's be objective in our response, not subjective. I > cannot > >>> freely say the same for APC with their slogan "Amandla Ngawethu!. But, > I > >>> know there are Pan Africanists in their midst too. > >>> > >>> Izwe Lethu! > >>> > >>> Cde MCharge > >>> > >>> . > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> -- > >> Sending your posting to [email protected] > >> > >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > >> > >> You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > >> > >> Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com > >> > > > >-- > >Sending your posting to [email protected] > > > >Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > > > >You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > > > >Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com > > -- > Sending your posting to [email protected] > > Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > > You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > > Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com > > -- > Sending your posting to [email protected] > > Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > > You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > > Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com > -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com

