The missives always submitted and advanced by Cde. Jaki are always informative 
and illuminating, mostly in as far as pointing the middle finger to ourselves. 
If the dictum of 'refining revolutionary theory' applies, this is what should 
be happening.
 
I wish to isolate to isolate the Shareworld congress Cde.Jaki has cited as what 
I perceive to be a missed opportunity in the party calendar because by then we 
too radical and probably irrational. I say too radical because I remember Joe 
Thloloe stating categorically clear how we can use the platform handed to us by 
the oppressors(negotiations) to our advantage. Looking back, I think Bra Joe 
had a journalistic insight of how this will project us both to the 
international community and endear us to the masses. I am under no illusion 
that the platform was hostile to us, but we could have used it to our 
advantage. Secondly, at the same congress, the late Khoisan X! appeared out of 
sync when he advanced that as a party we need to define ourselves whether we 
are social democrats,socialists and capitalists, obviously the chorus was 
"Singamasocially thina",based on what,you wonder.
 
We have never as the party recognised the social stratum presented to us by the 
society i.e. acknowledge the existence of revolutionary 
intelligentsia/thinktank, lumpen proletariat, sympathisers,followers, members 
and cadreship. We judged everyone by what branch he/she belonged at the expense 
of his/her input idea or input. Let's face it, some people did not necessarily 
need PAC in their lives but PAC needed them. You can't chase away that person 
simply because ''akanabranch' That does not under emphasise the status of a 
branch.
 
Cde.Jaki is raising the issue of African people being consulted at all times to 
determine their future and I can't concur with him more on that because once 
more we have lost opportunities by 'thinking for the people,not with the 
people', and the punishment at the polls over the years is indicative.As a 
response to the King Williams Town Golf Club operation,apartheid SA blocked all 
entrances euphemistically called  border gates.Guess who marched against that 
:Tripartite mass democratic structures. Thina besiloko sihleli ekoneni,sisithi 
sizowashaya lamabhulu!,the same applies with the Matanzima coup in Transkei. 
Everybody knew that APLA due to the PAC popularity in the region had been 
instrumental,but the Charterists reaped the fruit. because we were distant from 
the masses.
 
It is against this background that,to paraphrase Pokela, we need to go back to 
basics.I was listening to Zuma's speech in Mangaung and I noticed that 
strategically he dwelt on discipline. I wondered, what happened to our slogan 
''High revolutionary morale,high revolutionary discipline". It  had an impact 
in our ranks, actually it worked.Pity anarchists like Mphahlele can use it to 
serve their own interests.  

________________________________
From: Mawethu Sidzamba <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 December 2012, 15:09
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] BACK TO THE FUTURE


Open Palm Salute!
 
When good writers and good storytellers like Cde Jaki do narratives one is 
always reticent in giving any kind of reaction since that may detract from the 
efforts that exude high standards of articulation. This is an opportune moment 
where debate or dialogue becomes key in studying the rise and fall of the 
PAC.Some believe that the PAC died in the 70s.There is little theory espoused 
on the milestones of the party since its 60s glory.What I have read from the 
explanatory notes by Cde Seroke is that we need to grasp progress ochestrated 
by the era of Phokela, the presidential council 
triumvirate(Sibeko,Make,Ntloedibe(or is it?))and Mothopeng.I think Leballo's is 
rather foreclosed.
 
Maybe in the past 2 decades the PAC made judgement calls at either an impolitic 
moment or at a time that the structures of the party were either not prepared 
or downright fragmented. One other moment in history I wish Cde Jaki could have 
captured is the suspension of the armed struggle and, events surrounding that 
and its effects on party unity.Notwithstanding the paramounce of consulting 
attitude proposed so eloquently by Cde Jaki I do not think there is always 
practicality of making every PAC appearance or position statement a 
consultative one,that is why we need to ensure that we have the leadership or 
executive we can trust with the import of theory and undoubted grasp of basic 
documents to make tidal decisions in-between congresses to address the urgency 
that may not allow for a time-consuming consulting process. I rate that part of 
these PAC hair-raising statements by various leaders at different times happen 
because the all-
 important cell system was abandoned at the birth of  the pre-94 
negotiations.Having met a PAYCO leader at some fastfood outlet recently,we 
lamented how the absence of cell system can account for the frailty of branches 
and lack of appeal or proximity to the masses as reminisced by Cde Jaki.
 
We also are operating in a space where social networks are a new form of 
expression and the party policies have not metamorphosed to address such 
circumstances.When was the last the party deviced policies that govern the 
conduct of members that are spread around 
facebook,twitter,whatsapp,mixit,skype,youtube,BBM and all others unmentioned? I 
can on facebook claim to be a "gallant member" of the PAC and make statements 
that dangerously put the party in bad taste with hundreds and thousands of 
friends in my network. The contrast is is also true,if I articulate the party 
positions with brilliance and level-headedness it also draws positive energies 
towards the party.Some of the leaders are on the social networks on a 
"political mission"  to reach out to as many a youth or a people as possible 
yet when they are being sanctioned to clarify the feeble party dynamics they 
avow never to discuss party politics on social media.This happens when the 
party is
 also under attack by its opponents and rivals.We cannot argue that this is the 
way a party can consume and interprete this social change,especially if 
we claim to be scholars of widely read individuals and giant writers like 
Sobukwe,Mda and Raboroko who rebuke all accounts of ignorance. This could be 
but a fraction of an answer to a challenge staged by Cde Jaki as he pleads "We 
must debate modern ideas and challenges, and lead"
 
We all belong to PAC and that should be preluded by what makes us belong to the 
PAC for it will shape our revolutionary actions,discourage mediocrity and 
eliminate the evident membership insularity.
 
Mawethu
 
 
 
   

________________________________
From: Jaki Seroke <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 4:17 PM
Subject: [PAYCO] BACK TO THE FUTURE


Several months back, Mark Shinners made reference to the nub of a discussion 
held by the PAC leadership in prison in the mid-eighties, to make a point with 
me on who really owns the Pan Africanist Congress of Azania.  I recall that I 
had participated in the debate in writing but had lost the tail end and 
conclusions after I and my co-accused were hurriedly transferred away from the 
Johannesburg Prison.  Bra Mark has a keen sense of the core debate since he was 
then coordinating the contributions by various Africanists, and I guess he 
would have summed up the consensus outcomes.  We all had a stake in the trials 
and tribulations of the PAC and we were all - from various corners of the 
country - working to advance the objectives of the Party.  Therefore no single 
individual, entity or thought grouping could justly claim sole ownership.  More 
than that, the PAC was not founded to become a limited company owned by some 
obscure shareholders.   

At the time a coup had taken place in the then Transkei, and the PAC had played 
a leading role in it.  We commended the developments. We learned from them 
theoretically that the failures of a linear and top-down structured 
relationship were its inability to understand the context of an objective 
condition.  Ordinarily in this case the internal workings and dynamics of 
bantustan politics would be dismissed.  However the paradigm was constantly 
changing and unpredictable, which allowed us to understand the development of a 
spontaneous and self-organizing local Party leadership that inter-acts and 
adapts to the environment around it.   The leadership structures in Dar es 
Salaam or on Robben Island could not fully appreciate the need for 
self-directed autonomy if they hung on centralised control of the structures.  
The PAC was much more flexible and devolved authority to the operatives in 
decision-making and self-directed behaviour.  Also, at no stage
 did the PAC want to micro-manage or manipulate Azanyu, and the developments 
which ultimately led to the formation of Nactu.  The prison discussion we held 
was primarily concerned with the need, in these scenarios, to have a 
recognisable and identifiable pattern of political behaviour with a commonality 
of purpose.  The diverse contributions were appreciated and encouraged.  We 
were on for a healthy climate of criticism and self-criticism in the Party.   

 
What subsequently happened in the years from 1990 onwards was a series of 
internal political mistakes and flawed decision-making processes.  We were 
probably wet behind the ears and inexperienced, or we undermined the 
sophistication and power of our adversaries.  Political power is a contested 
terrain and the weak will most certainly be decapitated.   A few examples of 
our own errors:
        * The Shareworld gathering excluded the inputs of those who opposed the 
economic policy proposal that bordered on Thatcherism and allowed a single 
dimension to the Codesa negotiations.  Uncle Zeph Mothopeng had deliberately 
taken the letter of invitation to the talks to the Party membership for open 
deliberation and inputs.  The democratic consultation process should have been 
taken to its maximum conclusion.   We must learn to allow every opinion to be 
vented in our forums - and after all views have been heard let us together 
reach a consensus.
        * The PAC has never really interacted with the masses on its policies 
and views despite the proximity with masses.  It is either because we are in 
disagreement or a cabal is in charge and does not know what to do.  In fact 
almost every election manifesto was drafted by some smart individual without 
the inputs of the broad Party membership.  In 1994 Jon Qwelane worked all night 
on his own to produce a printed election manifesto, which was not even read by 
the National Executive Committee.  In 1999 Bishop Stanley Mogoba resorted to 
the impromptu announcement to cut off the limbs of criminals instead of 
articulating the PAC election policies.  In 2004 Dan Mdluli insisted on the 
catchphrase "Siyodlasonke", which literally meant the PAC and its followers 
would also be part of the gravy train and corruption.  In 2009 the election 
manifesto was drafted singularly by Peter Mayende without even the elementary 
understanding of what it meant.  The point of
 all this is that without ventilating political issues out in the open among 
ourselves first, the membership will always be disgruntled with the treatment 
they are getting from the PAC leadership and even distance themselves from the 
Party come crunch time.  
        * In the last local government  elections Letlapa Mphahlele boldly made 
the predictions that the Party will win 400 seats countrywide.  An accomplished 
politician would know how to deal with predictions in a campaign because these 
matters are determined in a scientific manner, not wishful thinking.  There is 
a vast difference between the actual 40 and his hoped for 400.  In 2009 the IEC 
accepted political proposals from the ANC to accommodate three poorly 
performing parties with less than the cut-off 50 000 votes in a mathematical 
formula that ordinarily allowed the leading parties to share the three seats.  
The public impression was that the ruling party needed Themba Godi on the Scopa 
seat instead of a hostile opposition, and the PAC was slightly higher than the 
APC and Azapo.  Any right thinking analyst could not believe Mphahlele's 
prediction because he had called for a second rule by decree.  That is why the 
Muslim Brotherhood's Morsi in
 Egypt has withdrawn his usurpation of power by presidential decree - watch him 
closely, he is bordering on self destruction. 
Let's go back to the good things we did in the past and learn from our mistakes 
in order to go forward victoriously.

Ideologically, the sum total of the Bureau of African Nationalism ideas were 
that the African people must be consulted at all times to determine their 
future.  The Africanist journal expressed heavy theory in biblical simplicity 
into what the core objectives of the national liberation struggle were.  Their 
emphasis was on content and subject matter rather than form.  These teachings 
are from the pioneers of the PAC and we must study them and bring fresh ideas 
to make them accessible to the masses.  We must debate modern ideas and 
challenges, and lead. Spontaneity of the masses will ultimately be guided by 
strategic objectives articulated by the Africanists.  This approach has been 
heavily criticized by those who belief in a linear paradigm where things are 
orderly and stable, and leadership issues out instructions from some elitist 
tower.  The struggle for change and transformation is often unpredictable, 
unstable and the rules of linearity do not
 apply.  I believe the ideas of Pokela, Sobukwe and others were visionary and 
scientific, even though they were misunderstood by some of our own membership.  

I'm raising the same debate today spurred by the comments of Mark Shinners to 
say we all own and belong to the PAC, our diverse backgrounds notwithstanding.

Jaki       

 

     -- 
Sending your posting to [email protected]
 
Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected]
 
You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco
 
Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com


-- 
Sending your posting to [email protected]
 
Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected]
 
You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco
 
Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com

-- 
Sending your posting to [email protected]

Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected]

You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco

Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com

Reply via email to