Criticism appreciated we should share experiences of the actual situation on the ground inclusive of what is working and what is not working.in the urban cities a ward has an average of 15000 people.and in the rural an average of 3000 people.the current pac constitution require only 20 members to form a pac branch.personaly i still prefer a branch with 50 members.whereever i worked with the sole purpose of achieving this objective i succecded.it is not without challenges though.during the days of underground we used those small structures such as cells and units etc.but once political paties are unbanned you cannot keep on organising small numbers.however if you think it is a better and effective method of work why don't you employ it and share your experiences with us?we need not being dogmatic on issues of practice.as long as the initiatives takes us forward and do not undermine the constitution of the pac but complimenting it.
The general problems of pac members is that they dont even try.they dont recruit,they dont hold meetings with members and they dont follow any programme of action as a results they dont grow in the party.my challenge to all pac members is that let them start where they are and let them invite us to help them with the difficulties they are coming across.i enjoy the challenges and the difficulties assocciated with building the party structures.for me this is the real opportunity of members and cadres to grow.in june this year pac would have grown by 500%,not only in terms of numbers but structures.so let talk while working at the sametime. Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -----Original Message----- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of linda ndebele Sent: 03 January 2013 01:22 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Myth of PAC branches Greetings SG, Your response is appreciated, although in my view you are taking a ostrich approach in looking at this issue hoping that this will dissipate on its own, this will not assist the organization. I and PAYCO were among the overwhelming party members of the party who called for the return of 2000 PAC constitution and constitutionality in our party. We know quite well that PAC basic structure is a branch. To us the call for return to constitutionality was not just a call for compliance, we wanted our actions, conduct and organization to be founded and embedded not only on constitutional provisions but principles as well. The argument here is that at this juncture PAC does not have branches established as per the constitution and duties assigned to branches. Branches exist for elections and party Congresses. Branches are not involved in the day to day challenges of communities it exist in. PAC branches hardly have plans of action to direct their activities and political programmes. I maintain a view that the whole concept of branches has not been tested its relevance and effectiveness. In order to arrest the cancer of fly-by-night branches proper measures have to be put in place to examine the effectiveness of branches, legitimacy and actual head count of the so called members. At this juncture leaders in the PAC are parachuted to leadership using fly-by-night branches. Elements who are known to be anti-party unity and who have done absolutely nothing with regard to party building continue to lead the party, ofcourse this was inherited by this leadership, the only worry is that instead of eliminating it, it is perfecting it. To me the concept members in good standing is just but one element of the big lie. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: "Narius Moloto" <g...@bcawu.co.za> Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2013 10:53:14 To: <payco@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Myth of PAC branches The constitution of the pac govern the organisation of the party.the basic structure of the organisation of the pac is the local branch.if things were not done in terms of the pac constitution such practices were wrong and should not be condoned.everybody called for the return to constitutionality of the running of the party because without it we have chaose and anarchy.it is not a myth to be a member of the party in goodstanding and to belong to a local branch,this is infact a show of commitment to the party.this argument is very unfortunate.members of the party need not to have fear as long as they comply with the party constitution. It must however be made clear that only party members from party branches in good standing shall take part in the business of the pac.this are the disciplined members of our party.everyone has an opportunity to go and organise a local branch and experience how it is like to do party work.party members have a duty to do party work amongst the masses,this is what shapes party members,cadres and leaders alike.talkshop with no practical work for the party breeds oppotunism,people who accend to leadership positions without having done nothing to build the party. Regards, Narius Moloto General Secretary BCAWU Tel: 011 333 0881 Fax: 086 520 0413 E-mail: g...@bcawu.co.za -----Original Message----- From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of linda ndebele Sent: 02 January 2013 08:14 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: [PAYCO] Myth of PAC branches Greetings, One feels obliged to venture an issue evaded by our best writers and cream of our leaders for the fear of being declared as non-members and branch less. I find this argument of PAC branches disingenuous and founded on a big lie. As far as I am concerned PAC has no fully fledged branches, if any they make less than 20% of the total PAC membership, there's no audit report to refute this fact. I joined PAC in 1993, from Newcastle Branch, Madadeni. The branch was fully affiliated in the National and Provincial structures. The branch had over 200 members. The branch was active with a fully operational BEC that met weekly and General meeting once monthly and the best organiser ever cde Vusumuzi Dlamini. The branch had a plan of action and had activities that kept members busy. The branch successfully staged 3 Bredell type land invasions which resulted to all persons who were party to the land invasions being allocated permanent sites with electricity, sanitation and running water. This was done without the support of either National or Provincial structures of the party. The branch was able to host national party events, visit of Jeff Masemola, Cde Makwetu during 1994 elections, 2000 elections, Dr Pheko and other events. The point I am driving home is that branches are expected to be there to be visible and work in improving lives in communities they exist in. I have traveled far and wide, to this day I still find it hard to find branches of the Newcastle branch calibre. In the PAC branches are for election purposes, both inter-party elections and parliamentaly & municipal elections. Branches are full of members "members", people who are absolutely ignorant on PAC aims and objectives, engaging them on policy would be an insult to their intelligence. PAC branches don't exist in between Congresses. Communities suffer all kinds of difficulties without any support from PAC branches, infact during this period they are non existent but come elections or congress you'll be told of a branch existing in the area. These fly-by-night branches are created merely for congresses and elections. Mainly they are a brainchild of opportunist who have aspirations of being parliamentarians and councillors nothing to do with party building and changing the plight of the African people. The concept of the branch has to be reviewed and test its relevance. The existence of fly-by-night branches has robbed our party best brains who cannot belong in any branch due to material conditions of the areas they reside on. PAC has not taken these issues into consideration. PAC was banned in 1960 when it had not established itself branches. PAC successes were mainly scored by industrious leaders and organisers of the time. The concept of branches is not tried and tested in the PAC hence leaders like Zeph Mothopeng emphasised cells as the most important element in the growth and activities of the party. Will elaborate further in due course. 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