Greetings Cdes

We have to accept and realise from all our points of conviction that the same 
area of convergence will be our first victory.
Speculations and insecurities about the intentions of one or the other are 
probably our biggest obstacle.

Open palm salute!
--------------------------------------------
On Tue, 9/9/14, Nkrumah Raymond KGAGUDI <nrkgag...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual conference
 To: mbuyigan...@yahoo.com, mnd...@yahoo.com, payco@googlegroups.com
 Cc: kutie.thondl...@gmail.com, sndam...@pac-cape.org.za, mrfihl...@gmail.com, 
linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za, ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com, 
rammymfulw...@gmail.com, richardma...@yahoo.com, river.mla...@telkomsa.net, 
ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za, takalaniligeg...@gmail.com, 
tumimod...@hotmail.co.za, tyamza...@yahoo.com, tnta...@webmail.co.za, 
isaa...@diplomat-global.com, i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com, 
phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com, p...@vodamail.co.za, paccapeme...@webmail.co.za, 
pasmapresid...@gmail.com, pactshwanereg...@gmail.com, pacmogalec...@gmail.com, 
pac.nc...@gmail.com, phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za, pacaza...@webmail.co.za, 
s...@pac.org.za, sbusiso.x...@gmail.com, dud...@webmail.co.za, 
digashuma...@gmail.com, dmalo...@klerksdorp.org, goqwana.san...@gmail.com, 
hlubi.so...@gmail.com, joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com, jntab...@gmail.com, 
0825164...@vodamail.co.za, lucasmmol...@gmail.com, znyam...@gmail.com, 
billiard.s...@gmail.com,
 bulanng...@gmail.com, bennet_j...@yahoo.com, bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com, 
ndhlo...@pac.org.za, nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com, nnyq...@gmail.com, 
m...@soultalk.co.za, mapulankoan...@gmail.com, mvakalijust...@gmail.com, 
mbind...@gmail.com, mphah...@eskom.co.za, malingeplaat...@yahoo.com, 
mphothobej...@yahoo.com, mokoen...@workmail.co.za, moshemahlom...@gmail.com, 
monyanepin...@gmail.com, mop...@pac.org.za, po...@yahoo.com, 
celenjabulo...@gmail.com, njabulo.m...@gmail.com, vu...@telkomsa.net, 
dumisani...@gmail.com
 Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2014, 6:34 PM
 
 Izwe lethu
 
 Once more, this debate further confirms that the September
 National Conference will not resolve the deepened level of
 feuding within the PAC, it will however worsen the situation
 and things cam be irreversible or untenable. For long in the
 PAC, PAC members and branches have being victims of two
 tongued characters!
 
 For example, PAC branches and members across all regions are
 highly divided and some are hiding their subjective
 interests using, statements such as this NEC member or that
 NEC has failed and did this or that! I strongly believe that
 in as much as Cde Letlapa, Cde Mpethi and Cde Moloto, might
 have made serious political blunders/errors, they cannot be
 made to be 100% liable for the entire divisions and feuding
 thus factionalism in the PAC. 
 
 Another example, there is a PAC PEC Member in Mpumalanga
 organising non-members to complete forms and increase
 numbers for the September National Conference, are we going
 to blame the put this corrupt activities on either Moloto
 NEC Grouping for this while exanorating and calling the very
 same Mpumalanga PEC member a comrade. 
 
 There are many examples, we can use to show that deeply, the
 PAC branches and members particularly comrades who are at
 the forefront of everything to be directly responsible and
 are hypocrites. 
 
 We have imprisoned former APLA combatants, no action is
 taken to demand the release of Incarcerated APLA combatants.
 Surely comrades, neither Cde Letlapa nor Cde Mpethi nor Cde
 Moloto is stopping your branches and members to picket and
 organise mass protests demanding the immediate release of
 all the unprisoned APLA conrades. None of the two existing
 APLAMVA NECs have been seen in action demanding tye release
 of these comrades, but today APLAMVA NEC comrades have a
 moral ground to point finger and identify failers of the PAC
 NEC Members. I find the extent of most comrades as being
 hypocrits, as shocking and also this explains the deep
 seated problems we are facing in the PAC. All PECs and RECs
 including all component structures are docile, dormant and
 moribound, relatively excluding PASMA with a serious
 qualification! 
 
 There are and has been so many caucases ever since 2007/8 to
 date, but every caucuse have yielded no tangible results but
 the situation has worsened because the current crop of some
 PAC members and those with leadeship ambitions are highly
 unprincipled and determined to break any law just to secure
 positions be they at the REC, PEC and NEC. 
 
 PAC Branches and members have abondaned principles and the
 correct political line as enshrined in the 1959 Pan
 Africanist Manifesto including all Basic Documents. A lot in
 the party is from branch level to members to national
 leadership is totally wrong and rotten! Gone are the
 principles in the PAC, as others argue to justify their
 conduct they claim that "people do eat principles".
 
  First task should be PAC branches and members should
 resolve their differences at a regional level first and
 unite! Then provincial inclusive meetings should be
 organised to consolidate the unity achieved at regional
 level! 
 
 Internal feuding is driven mainly by some members misleading
 some branches if branches and members can converge and
 unite, then it follows the NEC become subjected to a full
 accountability and direction from a united party membership
 through a constitutional conference and congress. 
 
 Lets start a party reunification programmes from branch to
 regional level as first phase! Then second phase being
 provincial, then we finalise by an inclusive national
 conference!
 
 Shango lashu
 Nkrumah
 
 Sent from Samsung tablet
 
 Mbuyiselo Kantso <mbuyigan...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 
 >Cde. Ndade
 > 
 >Before I go anywhere with your points let me make you
 aware of one thing that this subject does not involve you as
 Ndade as Sedibeng Regional Chairperson as you identified
 yourself so. I am talking of what happened on the court and
 what is recorded in the IEC whether it satisfy you or not.
 So for you maybe because to be called Sedibeng Regional
 Chairperson is something special to your heart which I wont
 contest because it does not fit into the debates here rest
 assure your tittle is secured. 
 > 
 >Just park the debate around Kantso for another day and
 you can raise it at Sedibeng and hope you will find joy
 there. Back to comrade Masoga. I think cde Masoga if you
 want to organise a proper caucus just have decency to speak
 to comrades and invite them properly and surely they will
 engage you with respect and explain yourself of what you
 hope to achieve. Then from there you can rightly point
 fingers to people who may sound discrediting your
 initiatives.  
 >
 >
 >On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 1:25 PM, Ndade Mxunya
 <mnd...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 >  
 >
 >
 >Sons and Daughters of the soil
 >
 >Very interesting arguments: regarding PAC conference of
 September or December 2014 and the state of the PAC in
 general. attacking each others opinions or views MaAfrika it
 is very interesting to read. but first let us ask ourselves
 who is PAC? it is Mr Mphahlele, Mr Mphethi, Mr Moloto or
 NEC. why this question because most of you the arguments you
 alluded to, you defended a person than the organization or
 justifying wrongs done by the individuals instant of talking
 about the constitution of the PAC because all answers to the
 problem are there. 1, some of you the likes of Mr Kantso
 wanted us to accept that degree is the correct clause in the
 constitution, moreover we said Mr Mphahlele run and manage
 the party for 3 years under degree and the party did not
 make any impact to S.A politics its administration were dead
 no membership cards issued to new and old members. it is
 safe to say we were just PAC by name no political activism
 among members let alone
 > community participation, no establishment of branches
 which even today we still have that challenge as the party.
 I agree with you all we all LOVE PAC and we all want to
 defend PAC THE QUESTION IS from who to its members or
 foreign intelligent  agencies or infiltration made by
 internal political parties in the country or those who just
 want to benefit/milk the PAC from its little resource that
 the party get from either National Parliament or
 Councillorship from metros or local government sits.
 MaAfrika are we defending this party from who? and may
 anyone tell me how are we going to see if somebody his/her
 actions is to implement what i mentioned above.  i
 AGREE with Cde Smallzondo, Raymond, Kutie and Cde Fihla if
 all we love this party let us meet under one roof, and start
 mentioning people by names also shame their actions if those
 actions violate the PAC constitution. to me some of you just
 makes arguments that have no solution or way forward to
 solve
 > this problems, note we belong to branches we are PAC we
 pay our subscriptions trying to launch branches under
 difficult conditions, mobilized people to join PAC which we
 are asked by the masses what are we doing as PAC u just
 fight among yo selves for one sit in the National
 parliament. so gentleman some of you think that somebody is
 paying for our membership but let me tell you we are trying
 to build this party to do things for our selves, which some
 of the people who makes arguments in this network don't even
 have branches but they wanted to be listen to. Mr Mphethi
 said he wont role this party by degree unfortunately today
 he is telling as the party is under degree we want to take
 him to task whether he saying December disrespecting other
 NEC members we are saying he must not be a coward he must
 come and account to the PAC in Bloemfontein. whether you are
 anti Moloto, Mphethi, or Letlapa let branches decide whom
 they want to lead this party. for us
 > at times makes arguments without considering majority
 role or democracy within the party it does not help but we
 are coursing cabals that are unnecessary.    Cde
 Kantso claiming that he is representing PAC in the IEC i
 don't remember this Cdes elected in the NEC and I don't
 remember this Cde lead the Sedibeng region. We also
 challenge him if he can we said to him don't claim to be
 Chairperson of the Sedibeng region let us call all PAC
 members who renew their membership and subscribed to come to
 one meeting and elect the legitimate region we are not
 fighting for position we are better than that, to date he
 did not commit him self to such gathering. and the
 invitation still stand. Izwe Lethu Peace among the people 
 >
 >
 >Ndade Mxunya Chairperson Sedibeng Region   
                
            
 > 
 >
 >
 >On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:35 PM, Mbuyiselo Kantso
 <mbuyigan...@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 >  
 >
 >
 >Dear Smal Zondo
 > 
 >The main problem here is that you clowns running the
 party and hope you will get the PAC progressive. You say
 Mphahlele is out and I think you suggest the SG is this
 messiah of whom I am told he is supporting you financially
 and hence you don't suggest he is not out. Unfortunately a
 lot of us were never raised in an environment where seeking
 favours from the powers might is the order of the day. 
 > 
 >Just read the correspondences written by your SG and you
 have an answer under your nose and stop behaving like those
 opportunists who think this story around September
 conference will leverage them to assume leadership whom I
 can undoubtly see is for personal gratification. Lastly if
 you have observed the last elections circus you will know
 that even parties contesting regional elections don't
 display such a joke. Before you say anything around what you
 have raised you better know there is no dignity in people
 used as pawns in a just cause.
 > 
 >Izwe Lethu 
 >
 >
 >On Sunday, September 7, 2014 11:16 AM, Smoll Zondo
 <smollzo...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 >  
 >
 >
 >Izwe Lethu
 >
 >The honest truth is that in PAC everyone speaks a lot of
 things here in media while doing nothing at all for the
 community or masses of Azania. Personally I am of the view
 that only cowards are within the rank and file of the PAC
 and its component structures. I never see such a big
 organization moving entirely backwards while having a lot of
 intelligent comrades. Seemingly we will spend another 20
 years revolving in courts struggles and character
 assassination programs. Let us say somebody recommends what
 needs to be done, Who is that body? Are we going to listen
 to that somebody? How long are we going to listen as PAC
 members?  All what we spend time doing is to check who
 says what and we attack. 
 >
 >The main issue here is not the party objective but
 personal objectives that have clouded the PAC Program. Super
 views which could have fixed the PAC were long cast out and
 thrown out of the table and nothing is learned by us as
 members. Mphahlele is out but the problem is still there in
 the PAC, now recently Mphethi is out but there is still a
 problem. What I can conclude now is that maybe all of us
 need to be out of PAC to allow PAC to grow, who else must be
 out of PAC for PAC to get it right? 
 >
 >
 >Regards, 
 >Thabani Zondo 
 >Tel : 072 020 5127 
 >smollzo...@gmail.com 
 HEAD OFFICE 
 >CENTENARY BUILDING 
 >CHURCH SQUARE 
 >PRETORIA 
 >0001  TEL: 012 323 9892 
 >FAX: 086 617 7851 
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 >PRETORIA 
 >0001   
 >    
 > 
 >
 >
 >On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 1:06 PM, Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
 <nrkgag...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 >
 >M’Afrika 
 >> 
 >>I fully agree with M’Afrika Kutie the enemies of
 PAC are more happier given the rate of disintegration of
 PAC. This disintegration must be arrested late as it might
 be! At a principled level, I disagree with the notion that
 PAC branches and members are fighting Cde Moloto for such a
 notion create an illusion that all is well in the PAC.
 Constitutionally PAC NEC has disintegrated and cannot
 execute any constitutional roles without being questioned,
 there are three NEC groupings claiming legitimacy. As PAC we
 are facing parallel structures across the country including
 in APLAMVA and PAYCO!   
 >> 
 >>PAC NEC elected at Butterworth Congress in July 2012
 no longer constitutes a quorum for it has split into three
 unequal and  non-quorating parts! According to e-mails
 and letters we saw since 11 May 2013, Cde Letlapa has been
 suspended and expelled, Cde Moloto has been suspended and
 expelled (By Cde Letlapa and now recently by acting
 President Mpethi), and allegedly Cde Mpethi has also being
 suspended! There are other NEC members equally suspended. So
 comrades in the NEC have resorted to suspending and
 expelling each other, while refusing to account to PAC
 branches and members at an inclusive national conference. 
 >> 
 >>There is no attack on the party’s annual
 conference but an attack to factional feuding and weakening
 of the PAC! 
 >> 
 >>This feuding which weakens the PAC must be arrested,
 and only an inclusive national conference can take the PAC
 towards a lasting political and organisational solution. 
 >> 
 >>Shango lashu 
 >> 
 >>Nkrumah  
 >>From:payco@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com]
 
 >>Sent: 04 September 2014 12:42 PM
 >>To: Kutie Thondlana; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za
 >>Cc: mrfihla08; payco@googlegroups.com;
 linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za;
 ad...@pac.org.za; wgaj...@gmail.com;
 rammymfulw...@gmail.com;
 richardma...@yahoo.com;
 river.mla...@telkomsa.net;
 ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za;
 takalaniligeg...@gmail.com;
 tumimod...@hotmail.co.za;
 tyamza...@yahoo.com;
 tnta...@webmail.co.za;
 isaa...@diplomat-global.com;
 i...@bataufc.com; lea...@hotmail.com;
 phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com;
 p...@vodamail.co.za;
 paccapeme...@webmail.co.za;
 pasmapresid...@gmail.com;
 pactshwanereg...@gmail.com;
 pacmogalec...@gmail.com;
 pac.nc...@gmail.com;
 phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za;
 pacaza...@webmail.co.za;
 s...@pac.org.za; smollzo...@gmail.com;
 sbusiso.x...@gmail.com;
 dud...@webmail.co.za;
 digashuma...@gmail.com;
 dmalo...@klerksdorp.org;
 goqwana.san...@gmail.com;
 hlubi.so...@gmail.com;
 joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com;
 jntab...@gmail.com;
 L Lekgwathi; lucasmmol...@gmail.com;
 znyam...@gmail.com;
 billiard.s...@gmail.com;
 bulanng...@gmail.com;
 bennet_j...@yahoo.com;
 > bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com;
 ndhlo...@pac.org.za;
 Nakaphala Bauba; nnyq...@gmail.com;
 m...@soultalk.co.za;
 mapulankoan...@gmail.com;
 mvakalijust...@gmail.com;
 mbind...@gmail.com;
 mphah...@eskom.co.za;
 malingeplaat...@yahoo.com;
 mphothobej...@yahoo.com;
 mokoen...@workmail.co.za;
 moshemahlom...@gmail.com;
 monyanepin...@gmail.com;
 mop...@pac.org.za;
 mnd...@yahoo.com; po...@yahoo.com; celenjabulo...@gmail.com;
 njabulo.m...@gmail.com;
 vu...@telkomsa.net;
 dumisani...@gmail.com
 
 >>
 >>Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual
 conference
 >> 
 >>Cde Kutie
 >>  
 >>It is simple the enemies of the PAC are simply those
 who are using members for their individual purposes and to
 some extend in the interest of the people they serve out
 there. Let me assure you pretending there is no  need
 to have an elected NEC organising a conference and rather
 preferring an individual to do so and who think he is
 everything can only be accepted by you and others. Leaders
 who grew in this party and with long service should have
 known by now that whatever they trying to in May 11 last
 will catch up with them and those who thought they will
 benefit out of that fiasco they can rest a little more is to
 be seen. 
 >> 
 >>  
 >>On Thursday, September 4, 2014 11:06 AM, Kutie
 Thondlana <kutie.thondl...@gmail.com>
 wrote: 
 >> 
 >>MaAfrika,
 >>  
 >>An All Inclusive Consultative Conference may just be
 our answer. We need a platform to address all the concerns
 mentioned in circulating emails and come up with a plan that
 will assist in rebuilding the PAC from then on. I'm sure our
 enemies operating within the party to destroy PAC are
 already celebrating success, let us not allow them that
 glory. We must prevent PAC from being made the ruling party
 Project.  PAC must never die! 
 >> 
 >> 
 >>Izwe Lethu! 
 >>Kutie
 >>On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 10:38 AM, <sndam...@pac-cape.org.za>
 wrote: 
 >>"All these years fighting  each other but there
 is no solution . . . what's wrong with us" - line in Lucky
 Dube's song 
 >>The solution is you comrades. . . .lets get into our
 structures and bring that change. It is expected that there
 will be those who will try to maintain the current chaos by
 all means. Folding arms therefore won't help, to complain
 either so only active engagement to pursue a collective
 principle will put us in a better place as an organization.
 
 >> 
 >>iAfrika
 >>  
 >>iAfrika
 >> 
 >>  
 >>On 2014-09-04 10:14, mrfihla08 wrote:
 >>Ma Afrika Izwe Lethu
 >>> 
 >>>I note that name calling and castigation of
 characters has become such a profession in the PAC. What
 surprises me, is that the very individuals such as Narius
 Moloto were paraded by some of us who are so vocal today
 against him. Narius was appointed by Mphahlele as party
 builder and Mphahlele's faction was fully behind him. He was
 subsequently elected at the Gcuwa circus as Secretary
 General. Those who were part of the Gcuwa circus must
 therefore take the blame for anything that they are opposing
 in Moloto today.  
 >>> 
 >>>Now, At what point ma Afrika are we going to
 talk about what can unite us instead of all this mud
 slinging and divisive language? We all know that instead of
 campaigning during the past elections, we were busy
 promoting our factional interests, taking each other to
 court, making statements in the media that decampaigned the
 PAC, and some of us even failed to vote. Today however we
 are so good at criticising instead of collectively accepting
 blame. Some of us who are talking today were part of
 Mphahlele's faction that created divisive parallel
 structures and expelled some of us from the PAC. Please ma
 Afrika let us stop with this childish and reactionary
 behavior that does not take us anywhere. All we need now is
 genuine solutions to the PAC problems. Factional statements
 and campaigns will not take us anywhere. For now, Moloto
 remains secretary general of the PAC, all the noises we can
 make against him will not help. The reality also here is
 that some
 > of us are not genuine, we are not fighting Moloto
 because we have the interests of the PAC at heart. We are
 fighting Moloto because we are pushing factional interests.
 My proposal is that let us identify those aspects that can
 help us to unite the PAC instead of engaging in useless
 muddling.  
 >>> 
 >>>Fihla
 >>>  
 >>> 
 >>>Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
 >>> 
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>-------- Original message --------
 >>>From: Mbuyiselo Kantso 
 >>>Date:04/09/2014 08:41 (GMT+02:00) 
 >>>To: payco@googlegroups.com,
 linda.ndeb...@newcastle.gov.za,
 ad...@pac.org.za, wgaj...@gmail.com,
 rammymfulw...@gmail.com,
 richardma...@yahoo.com,
 river.mla...@telkomsa.net,
 ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za,
 takalaniligeg...@gmail.com,
 tumimod...@hotmail.co.za,
 tyamza...@yahoo.com,
 tnta...@webmail.co.za,
 isaa...@diplomat-global.com,
 i...@bataufc.com, lea...@hotmail.com,
 phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com,
 p...@vodamail.co.za,
 paccapeme...@webmail.co.za,
 pasmapresid...@gmail.com,
 pactshwanereg...@gmail.com,
 pacmogalec...@gmail.com,
 pac.nc...@gmail.com,
 phumzilenom...@hotmail.co.za,
 pacaza...@webmail.co.za,
 s...@pac.org.za, smollzo...@gmail.com,
 sndam...@pac-cape.org.za,
 sbusiso.x...@gmail.com,
 dud...@webmail.co.za,
 digashuma...@gmail.com,
 dmalo...@klerksdorp.org,
 goqwana.san...@gmail.com,
 hlubi.so...@gmail.com,
 joseph.maqhek...@sasol.com,
 jntab...@gmail.com,
 kutie.thondl...@gmail.com,
 'L Lekgwathi' , lucasmmol...@gmail.com,
 znyam...@gmail.com,
 billiard.s...@gmail.com,
 > bulanng...@gmail.com,
 bennet_j...@yahoo.com,
 bulelanim1...@nokiamail.com,
 ndhlo...@pac.org.za,
 'Nakaphala Bauba' , nnyq...@gmail.com,
 m...@soultalk.co.za,
 mapulankoan...@gmail.com,
 mvakalijust...@gmail.com,
 mbind...@gmail.com,
 mrfihl...@gmail.com,
 mphah...@eskom.co.za,
 malingeplaat...@yahoo.com,
 mphothobej...@yahoo.com,
 mokoen...@workmail.co.za,
 moshemahlom...@gmail.com,
 monyanepin...@gmail.com,
 mop...@pac.org.za,
 mnd...@yahoo.com, po...@yahoo.com, celenjabulo...@gmail.com,
 njabulo.m...@gmail.com,
 vu...@telkomsa.net,
 dumisani...@gmail.com
 
 >>>Subject: Re: [PAYCO] FW: attack on party annual
 conference 
 >>>Morning Cde. Raymond 
 >>> 
 >>>I think it is now clear that up and above the
 feuding NEC you have an individual in the form of an S.G who
 thinks he wilds a wisdom above all others. By the way you
 are talking about a so called board room or office bound NEC
 which operates somewhere in a building in Joburg which can
 hardly pull one revolutionary programme. In terms of the
 history of the PAC you maybe sitting with an SG who has
 performed worse than any other S.G at any given.  
 >>> 
 >>>The SG went to several media houses claiming the
 PAC is ready to govern and the elections results suggest
 something else. Any revolutionary leader must be a person
 whom when time calls for serious introspection and checks
 and balances he does so to assist the party not his/her self
 righteousness attitude/mentality. Relying only on a
 conference which will have bussed and ghost branches wont
 assist the party in anyway. Take the Birchwood Conference I
 am told there were bussed delegates who never participated
 in discussions and some were drinking alcohol as they were
 there for an outing. 
 >>> 
 >>> For me arguing endlessly with this so called
 NEC powers it is a waste of time and the lesser we talk
 about this SG the better it is. The truth is since the
 Butterworth Congress the PAC was never in politics and hence
 its silence in the political activities of the country. I
 don't blame the SG because if people who work with him
 attend meetings to discuss people and suspensions and
 expulsions and then call that progress in the party tough
 luck for PAC members and its future. Personally I hate
 people who like claiming things that don't exist and for me
 to suggest the party has developed capacity to operate
 behind enemy lines is cheap and weak revolutionary theory to
 say the least. 
 >>> 
 >>>There is only one lesson we can draw from this
 post Butterworth NEC and that is when we approach the
 leadership issue we must all be sober and be serious about
 it. I think the reason why the PAC was successful from its
 inception it was mainly due to the facts I raised above and
 they elected office President and SG and put the leadership
 which had what it takes to build a revolutionary party. It
 is more than 24 months since we had an NEC but al  what
 we are consuming is a blame game. I have enough years in PAC
 to simply see what works and what wont work. You can have
 Cde Moloto for the next 100 years there as an SG all you are
 going to have is cheap manipulation, disorder, weekly
 suspensions and poor performance of PAC at all levels of
 party operations. In short it does not matter how right he
 says things will remain the same. 
 >>> 
 >>>Izwe Lethu! 
 >>> 
 >>>  
 >>> 
 >>>  
 >>>On Wednesday, September 3, 2014 5:10 PM, Nkrumah
 Raymond Kgagudi <nrkgag...@gmail.com>
 wrote: 
 >>> 
 >>>Izwe lethu M'Afrika
 >>>
 >>>Comrade Linda, the attached documents, once more
 confirms the question you raised. But the task facing all of
 us, it is to salvage the PAC from complete obliteration
 waged by the feuding 'NEC'. 
 >>>
 >>>Founding leaders of PAC are turning in their
 graves!
 >>>
 >>>Shango lashu
 >>>Nkrumah 
 >>>
 >>>
 >>>---------- Forwarded message ----------
 >>>From: "Admin @ Pac" <ad...@pac.org.za>
 >>>Date: 02 Sep 2014 3:44 PM
 >>>Subject: attack on party annual conference
 >>>To: "Admin @ Pac" <ad...@pac.org.za>,
 <wgaj...@gmail.com>,
 < rammymfulw...@gmail.com>,
 <richardma...@yahoo.com>,
 < river.mla...@telkomsa.net>,
 <ramotw...@maruleng.gov.za>,
 < takalaniligeg...@gmail.com>,
 <tumimod...@hotmail.co.za>,
 < tyamza...@yahoo.com>,
 <tnta...@webmail.co.za>,
 <isaa...@diplomat-global.com>,
 <i...@bataufc.com>,
 <lea...@hotmail.com>,
 <phillipdhlam...@yahoo.com>,
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