Hello Aman,

do these Archos players and recorders have a function, with which one
can skip from one directory to the next or previous? Or does one have to
use the navigation tree system?

   <*** Michael Lang ***>

You wrote:

> Hi, Rick.       
> Please excuse the delay in the response.        
> First, the recorder V2 is thinner and smaller than the player. It has ten
> buttons instead of six, it has the lithium-ion battery pack, and I believe
> the only size you can get one in is 20 GB. The FM recorder and recorder V2
> have the same form factor. The only difference between the two units is the
> FM radio in the FM recorder. Note that FM recorders and recorder V2s have
> USB 2.0. Players usually have 1.1. Older non-V2 recorders sometimes have 1.1
> and sometimes 2.0. It's difficult to tell to which specification of USB The
> older recorders conform. You can get both recorder V2s and FM recorders, I
> think, new from Amazon.
>         If you want one of the older recorders, or one of the studio units,
> you can find them on Ebay (search for Archos recorder or Archos studio).
> Many consider these better units, since the battery pack in the recorder V2s
> and FM recorders is proprietary. However, they're only available on Ebay
> with a bit of looking.
>         Personally, I have a recorder V2 and am happy with it. I have heard
> that the Recorder V2s, FM recorders, and most older recorders have
> comparable sound quality. The players, particularly the older players, are
> said to have worse sound. For a good overview of the differences and
> similarities between the jukebox models in table format, see
>         http://rockbox.haxx.se/docs/devicechart.html 
> Aman        

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro
> Sent: May 24, 2004 10:58 PM
> To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
> Subject: RE: Archos and Rock Box

> Aman,

> I pulled my Archos jb6000 out of the closet, and decided to try rockbox, so
> I found your message in my archives.  I followed the instructions you gave
> in another message, and now have talking menus, folders, and file names.  I
> was absolutely blown away by what these guys have done.  My interest in the
> Archos units is now rekindled and I think I would like to buy one of the
> newer units with a larger hard drive.

> In your message above you mentioned a recorder v2 and that it had a
> different form factor.  Can you describe this unit, and what the form factor
> is like?  Does it have a lithium battery, or were they still using nimh back
> then?  I know they are older units, so I am not sure what I will be able to
> find, but I'll try Ebay.  Which of those units is reported to be the better
> sounding one?  Any info you can provide to set me off on a hunt for a nice
> unit will be appreciated.

> These RockBox guys are awesome.  I am definitely going to contribute
> something via their PayPal link.

> Best regards,
 
> Rick Alfaro
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Aman Singer
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 3:16 PM
> To: 'PC audio discussion list. '
> Subject: RE: Archos and Rock Box


> Hi, Don.
>         Rockbox is doing great things with the Archos units. They have just
> put in accessible menus, and are working on speaking directory names and
> other things on the screen. Rockbox is firmware for the Archos units, and is
> free to the user. The archos units may be purchased at many computer stores.
> Note that only the Archos player, known as the Jukebox, the Archos recorder,
> and the Archos FM recorder work with Rockbox. The Archos AV units, which
> play video, don't work with Rockbox. The Archos units are available from
> many places, online from Ebay and Amazon, offline from many computer stores.
> The cost ranges anywhere from $75 to $300, depending upon whether you want a
> used or new unit, a player or a recorder, and what size of hard drive you
> need.
>         Two notes are worth making about buying an Archos unit. First, the
> quality control is said to be bad. If the unit works out of the box, it
> works well, and usually continues to work well. However, make sure you have
> some sort of return policy if you get a unit that doesn't work well.
> Secondly, it might be an idea to get a player or recorder, rather than an FM
> recorder or a recorder V2. The latter units have no replaceable batteries.
> That is, the battery pack is built into the machine and cannot be modified
> by the user. This may make life difficult on longer trips. If mobility for
> extended periods is important to you, you should buy a recorder or player.
> If you value the FM radio present on the FM recorder, or the form of the
> recorder V2, which is different from the one for the standard recorder, you
> might like to get those units.
>         Now, once you have your archos, you can get the Rockbox firmware
> from
>         http://rockbox.haxx.se
>         There are versions for all the Archos units I mentioned. 
>         You'll need to get the instructions for instituting talking menus
> and talking directories. These require some files which you can get from the
> web. If such instructions are needed, you can either write to me or to the
> Rockbox development list, subscription information for which is on the
> Rockbox site.
>         Good luck.
>         Aman
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Donald L. Roberts
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2004 2:52 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Archos and Rock Box

> Hello,

> I would appreciate it if someone could give me  contact info, cost, and
> development status info about using an Archos portable mp3 player in
> conjunction with the Rock Box software.  I want to know if there are working
> prototypes or whether the Rock Box is still strictly an idea.

> Since we know that the Apple Ipod is not accessible, I hope to find
> something comparable which is accessible.

> Thanks.

> Don Roberts



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