Got it.  And I'm going to start using this trick.  And no, I am not going to 
get my skin oils and fingerprints all over that delicate business side we're 
talking about.  I'll be careful.  Thanks for making me aware of this ridge 
thing.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jerry Richer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Blank CD/R recommendations, please


     Let me restate this.  All CDs that I have ever seen have a ridge on the
business side about an inch out from the hole in the center.  The ridge has
either a curved or square edge.  The other side sometimes has a ridge also
but it is no where near as pronounced as the one on the business side.  I
always feel for this ridge to determine how to put the CD into the CD player
or recorder.
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