Thanks Tim, Daniel, Jeff and Brent for all the information. It looks like I've a bit of work ahead of me getting to grips with Audible.

Thanks again.

gordon
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I don't think I'd buy an Ipod for much of any reason these days. I doubt it
does much the Muvo or Bookport can't, besides make you use Itunes to manage
the content. That would tack on $40 for scripts on to an already expensive
player just to move audible books in to it. The Pac Mate will play audible,
but it takes absolutely forever to put one program on. I was going to load
it with something that was about 50 megs, think some podcast I had on my
computer, and it wasn't even close to done after 10 mins.
They have to come up with something faster to transmit files to these
devices (the TNS probably only has USB 1, and my system right now does
also).

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Hi,

I've been with audible for about a year and a half, and I may be able to
explain a little about how this service works.  for complete orientation,
go
to http://www.audible.com and look for a link to orientation material.  I
forget what that link is called.
,

first of all, I can't answer your question about using a cell phone as a
mobile listening device. It sounds fascinating, but may not be in keeping
with the way the service actually is used by most customers.  I assume
you're talking about streaming from the site, and that does sound
interesting, and I hope you can find out something more about this idea.

But here's how most people use the service:it's .


When you purchase a program-- audible calls all its digital audio books,
periodicals and radio shows "programs"-- the first thing you do is go to
your personal library on the Audible site and, assuming you don't wish to
STREAM THE FILE STRAIGHT FROM THERE, YOU download the program to your
computer.  It goes into a receiving folder in the Audible Manager program
which is your personal interface.

Once the file/program is on  your system, you can listen to it either
sitting at your computer using the player that comes with Audible Manager,
called the Desktop Player, or with the Windows Media Player or Real
Player.
I recommend Desktop Player for this purpose, because its keyboard commands
are simple and effective.  Most blind and low vision Audible people feel
similarly.  I can send you simple instructions for Desktop Player if you
like.

but But I think most Audible listening is done on mobile devices, and this
is what you may want to be aware of more than anything.  Audible gives
away
with a year's subscription the little Creative MuVo, a 128 Mb. flash
memory
player that can hold two or even three book files at once and is very easy
to use by touch alone, as it has no LCD screen or menus.  audible also
lists
a number of other .mp3 player-type devices that can be used with their
programs, including many popular ones like the Ipod, as well as the
BookPort
and Book Courier that a lot of blind people use for various digital
reading
purposes.

You hook up the player to your USB port and then use Audible Manager to
copy
("transfer") the programs onto the player of your choice.  Then with
nothing
more than maybe a MuVo hardly bigger than a pack of doublemint gum and a
pair of earbuds, you're good to go.

This scenario for mobile listening, rather than recruiting your cell phone
for online streaming, may be the practical way to go.  Even if there's
some
way to make the phone accept the audio stream, you'd need also a set of
player commands like fast forward and rewind and pause, and be able to
stop
mid-program and start again from the same place.  I don't think there's
any
such arrangement possible, at least not yet.

Hope this helps.
Daniel

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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 5:36 AM
Subject: Audible and MP3


Hi
I'm new to Audible books and am looking for some advice. I gather that the books can be read in Media Player and Real Player. Does this apply to Real
Pla;yer on a phone (Nokia 9500) or has there to be some other software or
codec available before Audible's format is recognised.

Alternatives for listening on a mobile phone or other device using MP3 -
are
there any? Can the files be converted - is this legal if you're just using
your own books which you've downloaded?

Thanks in anticipation for any help. Feel free to reply off list if you
wish.

Gordon McFarlane



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