Kevin,

Thanks for the very detailed and helpful message. I'm leaning in the 
direction of Windows Media, and the lossless format sounds like the ideal. I 
don't want to lose quality if I can help it, and you're right, memory, in 
the form of external hard drives, is quite reasonably priced right now.

Thanks again,
Scott


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: Re: transferring music collection to hard drive


> Hi Scott.
>
> I'm using windows media player to archive my CD collection using WMA
> lossless as my choice of format.
>
> As it says, it's a lossless format and so quality is guaranteed. 
> Therefore,
> if you want to burn to CD in the future and play on a real hi-fi system,
> you're going to get the full frequency range.  This is where I've noticed
> the compression in MP3 files that otherwise sound great when played on a
> computer or portable device.
>
> There are other lossless formats but I think those have disadvantages. 
> Flak
> and OG aren't really supported out there in mainstream players very often
> whereas WMA is and I don't think Microsoft are going to go away too 
> quickly
> so the format will be around for a considerable number of years.  WAV is
> uncompressed and so is larger than WMA files but even more of a 
> disadvantage
> is that you don't have any ID3 tags in WAV files.
>
> A typical WMA lossless track of about 5 mins can be around the 30MB mark 
> but
> memory is cheap.
>
> I convert my music down to 128kbps on the fly when loading up my portable
> MP3 hard drive player so there's no problems in taking at least some of my
> collection with me when I travel.  You could though create MP3 files from
> the WMA files by using a program like Goldwave.  Because you're converting
> from a lossless format, you are able to go ahead and create files in other
> formats from your WMA masters without losing quality due to mixing and
> matching of formats.  You will of course get quality degradation by 
> reducing
> the bit rates.
>
> So, just to be clear, I rip to WMA lossless and keep those  files as my
> archive masters.  I store them on an external hard drive and don't touch
> these again.  If I want to shrink the music to take away from the 
> computer,
> I use Goldwave to create new smaller MP3 files or use the morph function
> that comes with my notmad explorer software to shrink the music on the fly
> as I load my Creative jukebox.
>
> Regards.
>
> Kevin
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Scott Blanks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <Pc-audio@pc-audio.org>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 3:46 AM
> Subject: transferring music collection to hard drive
>
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> I have a number of cd's that I am considering copying to my hard drive;
> I've
>> had those discs for many years and I am concerned about deterioration
> and/or
>> scratching, etc. However, I don't know what file format I should convert
> the
>> tracks into. I have free versions of Real Player and Winamp, and of
> course,
>> Windows Media. With those, I know I can choose between mp3, WMA, and
>> possibly another format using the newest version of Winamp. What I would
>> like to accomplish is converting the tracks into a high quality file that
>> does not take up too much space.
>>
>> For those of you who have converted a large number of discs into audio
>> files, what format did you choose and why? Should I shell out money for a
>> more powerful program than the ones I've already mentioned?
>>
>> Very curious,
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
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