Ah, thought that if you stream to it, you use whatever compression or not you want. Or were you playing OTR for a real broadcast station where you go to their studio and do it? I guess when I get OTR disks I want to turn the rock steady plugin off. I can see why it can sound bad as the noise creeps up, not sure what XM does about it, but doubt they process any of their channels.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Toews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Wav Hammer in SF > Compression is an absolutely miserable feature for old-time radio. I used > to do a show of OTR on a station that used extremely heavy compression, > and while I loved the station, the compression made some of the otherwise > perfectly fine OTR almost unlistenable. > > Bruce > > -- > Bruce Toews > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > On Sun, 11 Dec 2005, Brent Harding wrote: > >> With sports on the radio, compression makes it so you hear more of the >> announcer and less of the crowd, since stadiums are quite noisy. The >> crowd >> will gradually increase in level while the announcer pauses a few seconds >> but is pushed back down when he speaks again. In music, it tends to add >> more >> punch to it so it sounds like the band is hitting their instruments >> harder >> or playing louder without the distortion of simply turning the volume up. >> What I hate is when the background hiss starts to keep rhythm to the >> music >> when compressed and get loud right at the end. I wonder what radio does >> that >> keeps that from happening as even CD's have noise in them. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Matzura" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 3:50 AM >> Subject: Re: Wav Hammer in SF >> >> >>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 19:56:32 +1100, you wrote: >>> >>>> Well, I haven't used it, but I understand it compresses the sound in >>>> some >>>> way, something like normalizing. >>> >>> Normalizing and compressing are two different functions and bear >>> absolutely no relationship betwixt and between. Compression is the >>> art, and I do mean art, of making soft parts loud and loud partrs soft >>> so you don't have to keep reaching for the volume knob. Normalization >>> is simply maximizing the amplitude, or volume, of a waveform such that >>> its loudest point is never any louder than a pre-determined value >>> (usually 0dB, some folks push it to +3dB). No other aspect of the >>> waveform is changed, it's just moved up in whole so that its peaks >>> brush up against that arbitrary value of loudness. >>> >>> Uses for normalization: Recordings made too low in volume. Should be >>> normalized to at least 90% of full wave height, leaving a little room >>> for harmonic distortion which could produce voltage levels that would >>> or could overdrive a sound-reproducing device, such as the final >>> output stage of an amplifier, or even a speaker itself, but not >>> register on an oscilloscope as being louder than the specified >>> normalized value (see above). When normalizing a waveform, it's >>> always a good idea to leave some what's called head-room for just this >>> case and these conditions/circumstances. >>> >>> Uses for compression: Imagine hearing a recording of a meeting where >>> the main speaker was clear as a bell, but the audience who may have >>> asked questions were down in the sonic mud. Compression would >>> temporarily raise the volume level so the soft parts, the far-away >>> audience members, can be heard when they speak. Then, when the main >>> speaker starts up again, the volume level is pushed back down so the >>> main speaker doesn't overdrive the recording or playback equipment. >>> Understand that normalization will not help in this case because >>> normalization brings every sound up in volume by the same amount, >>> while compression changes the volume level "on the fly," as much or as >>> little as needed, depending on the characteristics of the waveform. >>> >>> Hope this helps. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> This list is a service of MosenExplosion.com. 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