Oh, ok. But I stil don't like the idea, seeing as how I have to pay for 
duties, money conversion, etc etc, as I live in canada.

Tyler

PS: How do I suggest to rockbox if the PNY vibe could support rockbox?
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Subject: Re: Confused about Iriver model numbers


> yes ebay has a very nice feedback system
> tj
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Confused about Iriver model numbers
>
>
>>I have never tried ebay and have heard tell that it really can put some
>> people down (not shipping items). Is there a way to tell how reliable the
>> person your buying a product from is?
>>
>> Tyler
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 9:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: Confused about Iriver model numbers
>>
>>
>>>i don't see why ebay is  "feeling adventorous" its an excelent resource, 
>>>i
>>> actually now prefer ebay and online shops ovr local brick and morter
>>> retail
>>> establishments any day.
>>> For some reason you will find the discontinued iriver stuff is very
>>> expensive, which is elling, as these things don't decline in value.
>>>
>>> tj
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:06 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Confused about Iriver model numbers
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>
>>>> Yep.  It has been discontinued.  I bought mine at a Best Buy.  Might
>>>> just
>>>> want to double check Best Buy or Circuit City, just in case they might
>>>> accidentally have one or two of the 799 or 899 lying around.  You just
>>>> never
>>>> know.  When I returned my T30, I happened to get a nice lady who was
>>>> willing
>>>> to check "in the back room" for me and that resulted in the 899 I
>>>> wouldn't
>>>> have had if I would have just trusted the first person I spoke with on
>>>> the
>>>> phone who said they didn't have any remaining in stock.  Just a 
>>>> thought.
>>>> Sometimes, just a tad of persistence really can pay off big.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, since the model has been discontinued, it may be extremely
>>>> likely
>>>> that no local stores have any in stock.  If you're sufficiently
>>>> adventurous,
>>>> you may want to check Ebay, maybe overstock.com, etc.  There is, for
>>>> example, an iRiver IFP 899 available at overstock.com for $154.  I got
>>>> mine
>>>> at Best Buy for $145 back in August.  It is listed as a "refurb" unit
>>>> and
>>>> I
>>>> am not impressed with this price for a discontinued refurb model, but
>>>> there
>>>> you go.  There must still be other sources.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Ken Burgess" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:52 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Confused about Iriver model numbers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Darrell,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure that most blind people would not like menus that wrap,
>>>>> preferring
>>>>> menus that return to the default when you turn off the unit.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the problem is that it just ain't August any more and the 799,
>>>>> at
>>>>> least, is kinda hard to find.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ken
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Darrell Shandrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 8:41 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Confused about Iriver model numbers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Ken,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The T30's menus wrap, there's not an accessible way to get to the
>>>>>> record
>>>>>> function and, in general, this newer model just wouldn't work for a
>>>>>> blind
>>>>>> person.  I bought one back in August and promptly returned it in 
>>>>>> favor
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the IFP 899 which is much more accessible.
>>>>>
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