Gary, that is why we had equalizers and used metal tape so with good quality 
machines we could achieve fantastic results. when the bias was tweaked, you 
could 
achieve a frequency response of 20 to 22000 hertz.  . there are not many 
phonograph records that gave that kind of responce, especially 45 RPM records.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital


> In the '70's everyone thought tape sounded good.  <grin>
> Seriously, you could get pretty good sound from chrome, especially if you 
> could 
> tweak the bias, but standard machines never got great enough sound from it to 
> compare it to cd.  I did have personally recorded tape made with the Older 
> APH 
> large tape recorders of voice, and it sounded very close to the originals to 
> my 
> ears, certainly better than ferics.  I couldn't get any other machines to 
> give 
> me that good sound.  Didn't matter what I did.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Gary G Schindler
>  To: PC audio discussion list.
>  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 11:52 AM
>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
>  I am Curious Keith, what kind of noise reduction systems are you familiar 
> with
>  when it comes to recording on tape. DBX was one of the best noise reductions 
> I
>  have ever used for recording. ARNS was another good type of noise reduction. 
> you
>  couldn't beat DBX. I don't know how old you are, but in the seventies, 
> everyone
>  coveted DBX.
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>  Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2007 8:30 AM
>  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>
>
>  > Hi you wrote:
>  > I guess you have never heard good tape. good high bios or chrome tapes 
> sound
>  > equal to the cd.
>  >
>  > Erroneous!
>  >
>  > You will always suffer from sound quality degradation every time you
>  > duplicate an analog source file...Keith
>  >
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>  > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 7:51 PM
>  > Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >
>  >
>  > I guess you have never heard good tape. good high bios or chrome tapes 
> sound
>  > equal to the cd.
>  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  > From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>  > Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 4:23 AM
>  > Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >
>  >
>  > But, tape sounds horrible and has relatively poor frequency response, at
>  > least as far as music goes.  Talking cassette tape, btw.  Of course
>  > personally recorded, out of print, or tapes of books are a different story.
>  >
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: Keith Gillard
>  >  To: PC audio discussion list.
>  >  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:32 PM
>  >  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >
>  >
>  >  Hi Don you wrote:
>  >  if you don't already have a preamp I would buy a mixer instead. It will
>  > have
>  >  turntable preamps in it plus you can do so much more with it. For example
>  >  you could record your tapes over to digital as well.
>  >
>  >  sounds good.  What kind of mixer do you have and how easy or blind
>  > friendly
>  >  is it?
>  >
>  >  Thanks...Keith
>  >  ?  I have the
>  >
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: "Don Ball" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>  >  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 2:56 PM
>  >  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >
>  >
>  >  if you don't already have a preamp I would buy a mixer instead. It will
>  > have
>  >  turntable preamps in it plus you can do so much more with it. For example
>  >  you could record your tapes over to digital as well.
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: "Gary G Schindler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>  >  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:22 AM
>  >  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >
>  >
>  >  Hello Keith, go to http://www.tracertek.com and you will find a couple of
>  >  really
>  >  nice preamps you can use for hooking up the turntable to the computer.
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: "Keith Gillard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]>
>  >  Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 8:14 AM
>  >  Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >
>  >
>  >  > Hi,
>  >  >
>  >  > Good info,
>  >  >
>  >  > Can you suggest a good little pre-amp that would work well with my JVC
>  >  > turn
>  >  > table?
>  >  >
>  >  > BTW:  How is Groove Mechanic for accessibility?
>  >  >
>  >  > Cheers...Keith
>  >  >
>  >  > ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  > From: "John J. Jacques" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  >  > To: <[email protected]>
>  >  > Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 5:42 AM
>  >  > Subject: Re: Devices for Recording LP's and 45's to Digital
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  > Hi all, the easiest way to do this, is if you have a turntable that you
>  >  > can set up close to your computer!  You can either get an inexpensive
>  >  > pre-amp that will boost the low level of a magnetic phono cartridge and
>  >  > equalize it correctly and feed the output of that pre-amp to the line
>  >  > input of your sound card!  Then, all you need is a sound editing
>  > program,
>  >  > such as Gold Wave, or Groove Mechanic wich is designed for recording
>  >  > vinyl!  An alternative solution, if there is no way to get a turntable
>  > in
>  >  > the same area as the PC, is if you already have a fairly good quality
>  >  > stereo system, with a turntable and a cassette deck, you can first
>  > record
>  >  > the vinyl LP's on to a good quality cassette and then, plug a cassette
>  >  > deck into your PC's sound card and record that way!  Since I have my
>  >  > stereo system set up right here along with my computers, I just feed my
>  >  > main pc's second sound card into the tape monitor loop of my reciever,
>  > so
>  >  > I can record anything that I wish onto the hard drive!
>  >  >
>  >  > HTH:
>  >  > J. J.
>  >  > John Jacques
>  >  > Amateur Radio Station: KG7FA
>  >  > "Where Cat Is,  Is Civilization!"
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