Thanks, Cornell!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cornell Ligon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS


> Hi Gary,
> I had the same experience on the B&K audio site as well. I'll hold on to
> this email through the weekend and will forward privately so I don't clog
> things up on the list. IOW: I will get info for you and send it along.
> I had my eye on a unit via EBay had I sold my system. I kind of glad I
> didn't though, unless I could get into the B&K unit. I have an older B&K
> 4090 preamp, but the remote went bad, so I sold my power amp about two 
> years
> ago and jumped into the Flagship Onkyo receiver. After further research, I
> realized how much of a step down the JVC would've been, so I moved on from
> it. Although it has some nice features, it's not TXH Ultra II certified.
>
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards,
> Cornell
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Subject: Re: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 00:57:51 -0500
>
> Hi Cornell!  I haven't incorporated my computer with my home theater 
> system
> either, but I also hope to do so.  I checked the B and K website, but 
> didn't
> find it very accessible.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cornell Ligon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:21 AM
> Subject: Re: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
>
>
> > Gary,
> > Do you have your computer incorporated into your Home Theater system?
> > That's
> > what I ultimately want to do, but when I did so a few months ago, my
> > computer screen didn't read well on a HD TV. The wife said all 
> > characters
> > looked weird, but I only have composite and S video out on my video card
> > and
> > no adaptor to accommodate the 16:9 TV screen.
> > Don't quote me on this, but I heard the B&K Audio Components AVR
> > 507receiver
> > will allow software programs, such as JAWS to be loaded onto it's system
> > allowing blind folk to use it more easily. I'm currently running an 
> > Onkyo
> > 989 version 2 THX Ultra 2 receiver and considering a few other options
> now
> > as I'm trying to sell the Onkyo.
> > JVC has wireless PC hook up capability as well as Sirius satellite radio
> > built right into the 702B model. So, I'm considering the B&K as 
> > mentioned
> > above or the JVC once I sell my Onkyo, or I might just wait to see if
> > Onkyo
> > has an upgrade soon with newer HD features.
> > I also like to use a few surround features when playing music.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Cornell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > Subject: Re: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 00:49:33 -0500
> >
> > Well I like my home theater system.  I play my music in surround sound,
> as
> > well as watching movies with it, and I think it sounds pretty good.  I
> > have
> > a Pioneer system not, but am not sure what I'm going to get next time. 
> > I
> > plan to get a new system though.  I'm not sure about on screen
> programming
> > since I can't read the screen.  This may have strayed off topic, but
> > people
> > were comparing audio files with home theater.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cornell Ligon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 9:48 AM
> > Subject: RE: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> >
> >
> > > Andre,
> > > No, I understood what you were stating, but I'm such a junky for audio
> > > equipment in any capacity and I'm familiar with Nad's reputation for
> > > keeping
> > > things simple without too many bells and whistles. I'm also an audio
> > file,
> > > but I began to incorporate home theater A/V into my system back in 91
> > with
> > > an Onkyo 70 Pro integra receiver with discreet amplification.
> > > For the most part, I fully agree with you about home theater systems
> not
> > > that great for audio files. However, when you get into higher end
> > systems,
> > > at least with a few out there, they tend to accommodate audio 
> > > listening
> > > quite well along with the home theater features. But, that typically
> > means
> > > spending $1800 to almost $4000 for a good system.
> > > Quick note - I had a great 6 channel 170 watts per channel rms THX
> > > Parasound
> > > power amp that I sold two years ago and kind of regret now, but tend 
> > > to
> > > like
> > > to change up audio equipment every few years.
> > > Sorry to get so far off topic.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Cornell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: André van Deventer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > Subject: RE: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2007 07:59:52 +0200
> > >
> > > Hi Cornell
> > >
> > > The Nad c320b is an integrated amplifier.  I do not need a home theter
> > > system so I went for a simple amplifier to listen to music.
> > >
> > > This is a very simple integrated amp with no bells or whistles, like 
> > > we
> > > have
> > > ben expecting from NAD over the years.  I don't know what their home
> > > theater
> > > systems are at all.
> > >
> > > Perhaps I should have stated this in my original message.  The reason 
> > > I
> > > asked these questions is that I wanted to listen to high quality music
> > and
> > > not home theater.
> > >
> > > And I must say that the few times I listened to music on home theater
> > > systems the sound quality was horrible to put it mildly!!
> > >
> > > Andre
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Cornell Ligon
> > > Sent: 29 March 2007 03:51 AM
> > > To: pc-audio@pc-audio.org
> > > Subject: RE: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > is the Nad a power amp or a receiver? In other words, do you have your
> > > computer system and stereo or home theater integrated?
> > > I did this awhile ago until I realized my phone jack in family room
> > wasn't
> > > powerful enough to handle DSL for the nt, so I temporarily move my
> > > computer
> > > system back into my office.
> > > I am however considering a 'Home Thater ' computer to integrate into 
> > > my
> > > Onkyo 989 V2, and also considering upgrading it to a newer B&K audio
> > > system
> > > that handles HD TV, HD audio files and wireless communication with the
> > PC.
> > >
> > > being an audio file with 'home audio', I must say I don't quite have
> the
> > > same ear for audio on my computer, because I can't tell much 
> > > difference
> > in
> > > sound quality from using WMP, REal Player or ITunes other than ease of
> > > use.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Cornell
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----Original Message Follows----
> > > From: Andri van Deventer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Reply-To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > Subject: RE: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> > > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 21:19:37 +0200
> > >
> > > Hi Kevin
> > >
> > > The setup I use here is of course my PC with win xp and  windows media
> > > player 11.
> > >
> > > I have a emagic emi 2/6 usb professional soundcard running into a
> > > newly-purchased NAD c320b.
> > >
> > > So I am not using computer speakers but a proper hifi system.
> > >
> > > So the soundcard in this stage is completely isolated from the
> computer.
> > >   Oh yes - on windows media player 11 is there a way to completel y
> turn
> > > off
> > > the equalizer?  I know there is a certain menu item to not make the
> > > equalizer show but is it then turned off completely?
> > >
> > > Andre
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of Kevin Lloyd
> > > Sent: 28 March 2007 08:55 PM
> > > To: PC audio discussion list.
> > > Subject: Re: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> > >
> > > Hi Andre.
> > >
> > > In my opinion windows media player provides a better listen than
> winamp.
> > > There's really very little difference but specifically if you listen 
> > > to
> > > live
> > > albums or concept albums, windows media player is far superior to
> winamp
> > > in
> > > playing the tracks seemlessly.  I prefer windows media player
> personally
> > > and
> > > I believe you won't get a third party product to play a proprietary
> > format
> > > like WMA better than a player  produced by the company that produced
> the
> > > WMA
> > > format itself.
> > >
> > > With regards to your other question, no, a computer won't play a CD as
> > > well
> > > as a good CD player.  I've had a number of machines over the years and
> > > find
> > > the transports are more flimsy than a good quality CD player and don't
> > > hold
> > > the CD as well.  This can lead to jitter and distortion.  A computer's
> > > CD-ROM is primarily designed to play data CD's and so there was never 
> > > a
> > > need
> > > originally to worry about this aspect. Incidentally, I've found 
> > > laptops
> > to
> > > have the better transports which surprised me but they do tend to have
> a
> > > raised centre onto which you can firmly place the disc and so 
> > > eliminate
> > > jitter.
> > >
> > > After the transport you've got the processing of the signal which is
> > going
> > > through a dirty box of electrics in close proximity and generally
> > > feeding
> > > finally into a not too wonderful soundcard.  A good quality CD player
> > will
> > > have more separation between the digital processing and power supply 
> > > to
> > > remove  RF generated by all that hot electrics.
> > >
> > > Best way to listen to a collection of music on a computer in my 
> > > opinion
> > is
> > > to get a decent USB soundcard and connect to a quality amplifier,
> > > preferably
> > > using a digital connection.
> > >
> > > Regards.
> > >
> > > Kevin
> > > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Andri van Deventer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:40 AM
> > > Subject: SOUND QUALITY OF DIFFERENT AUDIO PLAYERS
> > >
> > >
> > >  > Hi all
> > >  >
> > >  > I know that I am now probably starting a rather difficult and
> perhaps
> > >  >
> > > controversial thread, but I really want to get an answer to my
> > > questions.
> > >  >
> > >  > 1.  Is there a difference in the audio quality between winamp and
> > > windows
> > > > media player?  I like using windows media  player but I do want the
> > best
> > > > audio quality.  I put all my cds in windows media lossless format so
> I
> > > >  >
> > > want  > lossless sound out of the audio player also.
> > >  >
> > >  > 2.  Would you get the same sound quality out of playing audio cds 
> > > on
> > > a
> > > >
> > > computer than you would get playing them on a good quality cd player?
> > >  >
> > >  > I am not really interested in saving my music in wav format as you
> > > cannot
> > > > seem to get media info on a wav file.
> > >  > Andre
> > >  >
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