Hi Again Larry
Have you considered Adobe Audition 1.5 (the latest is pretty inaccessible) 
It works on all fronts including multitrack recording and playback, up till 
jaws 7.0 or 7.1 Even selecting is fairly easy. Its noise reduction 
andpop/click remover, and its clip restoration if over recorded are good - 
each of these and of course the other filters and exciters, etc. are 
accessible and fairly flexible as to adjustment. Probably DC6 has the edge 
on cleaning, but if you happen to hit upon the right combination in Audition 
it can sometimes work better than the opposition. It's also pretty navigable 
when it comes to files.
Apologies if you know it already.
Gordon
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes


> Hi Gordon. Unfortunately I don't have any suggestions to offer in that
> regard. This is why I'm looking at adding something else to my system. I'd
> like to continue using DC6, of course, but I'm also looking for something
> that will allow me a bit more flexibility, both in adjusting filters and 
> in
> automating certain restoration aspects. I considered Sound Forge, but 
> aside
> from the filters added in with Noise reduction 2.0, I see no advantages 
> for
> someone who works with records of all types as well as cassettes. I do use
> GoldWave a lot, but fI would like to see if there is something out there
> that will offer that sort of accessibility with a bit more speed.
>
> Larry
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 1:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>
>
>>    Hi Larry
>> It's not the most intuitive but you have to use the Jaws Cursor. I don't
>> use
>> it much but when I have it's been easy to clean up and excite a file. If
>> you're used to DC6 you may just prefer using this and your experience of
>> which filter is good at which point. Mentor is just trying to automate 
>> the
>> process. You click with the jaws cursor on the start button (sighted help
>> may be necessary at first to label them) - once you're in the program
>> instructions are on screen and you click on the appropriate buttons. 
>> After
>> a
>> few minutes of experimenting and understanding the logic of the buttons
>> you
>> can choose to clean with different recommended filters and to excite or
>> enhance with appropriate filters. If you like to tweak that's possible
>> too.
>> It's a good resource for bringing in files from external sources and
>> cleaning them fairly easily. Sometimes it's just better to use DC6 
>> itself.
>> Can I ask you how you navigate long files in DC6. I tend to cut them in
>> Audition before loading them into DC6. I haven't found an easy way to
>> select
>> areas in DC6. Have you?
>> While working through the dialog boxes of filters is easy I also have
>> difficulty in using the multi filter option. It seemsto involve a bit of
>> dragging and dropping. I usually settle for using the presets which in
>> themselves are pretty good. Have you a way of using the multitab filter?
>> Regards.
>> Gordon
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 5:41 PM
>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>
>>
>>> Gordon, I did look at Audio Mentor, but couldn't make any sense of it. 
>>> In
>>> many cases Window-Eyes and Jaws just spoke the word button. I could open
>>> an
>>> audio file, both the demo and one of mine, but couldn't seem to do
>>> anything
>>> with it. Is this an ap that should work with audio files right out of 
>>> the
>>> box? LOL, maybe it's me, but I get more spoken feedback with DC6 itself.
>>> And
>>> you're right, it's a fine audio editor.
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "G. McFarlane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 6:19 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> If it's dC6 it's found on
>>>> www.tracertek.com
>>>> This site not only contains much software which is good for noise
>>>> reduction
>>>> but also much excellent equipment, usually with good offers.
>>>> Gordon
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2007 8:56 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> Just in case it isn't obvious, do you have a site for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:17 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> It's audio editing software. I like it a lot, though some on this 
>>>>>> list
>>>>>> feel
>>>>>> that it isn't accessible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Gary Petraccaro" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:09 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dc6?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: "Larry N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:51 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I perform Audio Restoration on records and cassettes before
>>>>>>>>transferring
>>>>>>>> them to CD. As this is what I do professionally, I want to perform
>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>> tasks both quickly and with a level of precision that customers 
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> right
>>>>>>>> to expect. Will that aspect of Sound Forge work efficiently with
>>>>>>>> Window-eyes
>>>>>>>> without additional set files?  I am now using GoldWave and DC6 to
>>>>>>>> perform
>>>>>>>> such tasks and need to be sure that Sound Forge will increase speed
>>>>>>>> andefficiency before going to the expense of buying it. Any
>>>>>>>> thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>> From: "Jerry Richer" <        Com>
>>>>>>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 2:38 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Sound Forge With Window-Eyes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     I use Sound Forge every day with Window Eyes and no set files.
>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>> works fine for me but it depends on what you want to do.  Some of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> dialogues I can't make any sense out of.  Most of the things I
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't want to use anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
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